little scrote knocked my bike over this morning

[mr-inteligent]

I parked up today in town like normally, come back half a hour later to find my bike on its side. I manage to lift it on my own and find and a security guard who works at the shopping center comes over to mind the spilt fuel until they get a cleaner, So I asked him about CCTV and he said someone will give me a call later.


Well they just phoned me now to tell me it was a 5 year old child who's mum was stood talking and he jumped on the bike knocking it over, Apparently she does nothing and on-lookers also do nothing neither do the rest of Joe public who walk on by.

I'm have also been told I cant have the footage of the CCTV for data protection. Is there anything I can do? or should I just accept this as shit happens?

[Capt Castle]

Could always try the local police. Report it as criminal damage or something. Worth a shot if nothing else.
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[MarJay]

You're not allowed to have the footage but you should be able to view it I'd have thought...

Anyway, what was the damage like? I think to some extent you need to accept that shit happens. The chances of identifying the woman involved is very very slim even if they do let you view the CCTV. Then, if you DO identify the woman from the CCTV that they randomly DO let you watch, then the chances of you getting anything out of her are slim at best.

That said, I'd still want to go around and 'have a word' because she has to realise she can't allow her child to act like that. Not least because he could have been seriously injured if the bike had fallen on top of him.
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[Frost]

5 year old weighs 20kg? Bike weighs 200?
So if you're 90kg that'd basically be like a 1 tonn weight falling on you.

I'd shit a brick if a bike fell over anywhere near a 5 year old.

[t101]

shit happens. how would you track them down, and what would you do anyway? take a 5 year old to court?

[mr-inteligent]

Well They are now saying they will only give the footage to The Police, Insurance or Solicitors. I want to see it for myself, wouldn't you if it was your bike? I would even pay a solicitor just to be middle man.

I will try the police first see if they can get me the tape.


Damage.. The rear break peddle, front break lever, and exhaust took the brunt. plus scratch on tank.

The rear peddle was bent under the frame and locked the break on so I had to call a friend and get his spanners to take the pressure out of the rear break to recover it home.

The bike is a bandit 400 172kg dry.

[Pete.]

[pinkyfloyd]

Welcome to the perils of biking. I've had a bike pushed over by chavs. Local cctv wont release the footage unless the police ask for it. The police wont ask for it as they havent got the manpower. I've had arguments both online with the freedom of information website (Thanks Cansa) and with the police and local council and have just had to accept that theres nothing I can do about it.

I'd recomend you do what I've had to do. Fix it outside of the insurance, its much cheaper, report it to the police and then forget about it until next time.
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[Poseidon]

CCTV is indeed protected by the data protection act, but you as an individual can file a "subject access request" to obtain the footage. You have the right to access any and all information about you held by any private company, and video footage comes under this.

They can charge a fee for your subject access request, the limit is £25 but most places will charge about a tenner to cover the staff costs and a video.

I'm not sure if they are only obliged to provide the footage that you appear on in person (so you arriving/leaving) or whether they can provide you with footage of the full duration of your bike being parked there.

And like others have said, not sure what good it would do having the footage... I suppose you could memorise the woman's face and smash her with your lid should you see her again, purely for not controlling her kids, but I fear you may be seen as the bad guy by the boys in blue.
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

One of the few times an alarm would be useful.
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[whitedevil]

At least if you found out who she was you could get a 5yo to punch her in the tits.
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[Rogerborg]

Data Protection Act 1988 Section 29 makes provision for releasing personal data "for the prevention and detection of crime". There's nothing in the Act itself that limits that access to any particular group of people. Your acquiescence makes it so.

Step 1:
Write to the shopping centre telling them that their negligence in managing their site - including the health and safety of their customers - has resulted in you suffering a loss. Instruct them to provide you with a copy of the footage, citing Section 29. Say that if they obstruct you from pursuing a civil claim against the cockholster then you'll have no choice but to recover your losses from them instead.

Step 2:
Repeat the letter, heading it "LETTER BEFORE ACTION" and ending by saying that you'll file a County Court small claim to recover your losses. Stress that a crime occurred - criminal damage - and there is no bar to them releasing the footage to allow you to attempt to pursue the slag.

Step 3:
File the court action. You can even do it online now. All you have to lose is your filing fee and an hour in front of a Magistrate saying "Ah, go on, go on, go on" - the best result is that they cave and pay you off. Always go after the deep pockets.
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[Jim Mc]

Trouble is, if he does go to court, can he do them for loss of earnings too?

I would assume that you have to file all damages in advance, but how can you do this if you don't know how many working hours you stand to lose by attending court?

[koolio]

[Raffles]

[MarJay]

[Poseidon]

[Chalky.]

It can't have been very secure if a 5 year old managed to knock it over?

[MarJay]

[DrDonnyBrago]

[Chalky.]

I mean secure on its stand not security wise.

It can't have been very secure on its stand. Just an observation. but of course the chld shouldn't have been there.

[MarJay]

[Poseidon]