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blinky
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: *BBC News -Crackdown on camera-users! Did anyone see this??? Reply with quote

Hi all

Just curious if anyone caught this on the news the other day.

Apparently the police are cracking down on video-camera users, in cars (and i assume in rgds to other vehicles also). They are trying to pass a new law or something i heard. I just wanted to verify this.

I cant seem to find the story on their website, but did anyone catch the story, i think yesterday?


I think for more daily-motorcycle-users like commuters etc., cameras are essential in protecting against potential insurance situations, where people may do a runner or whatever....

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PostPosted: 19:12 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a motovlogger I'm hoping someone pipes up with some info Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess they're cracking down on those holding the camera in their hand whilst they drive as they can then be argued to not be in full control of the vehicle.

A camera that does not interfere with the operation of the vehicle would be perfectly fine, otherwise that would make police dash cams illegal as well as any evidence collected by them.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manatee wrote:
A camera that does not interfere with the operation of the vehicle would be perfectly fine, otherwise that would make police dash cams illegal as well as any evidence collected by them.

Not in Britain....
In the USA, cases get chucked out on the two wrongs don't make a right rule, so evidence obtained illegally, is 'inadmissible'
They often DO admit it, particularly in jury trials to have the opposing lawyer object and have it 'dismissed', and the jurors told to dismiss it... only they still KNOW of it... so it's still 'prejudicial'
But under English common law, evidence is evidence how so ever obtained, and its then for the Judge to decide on what is pertinent to the case and might be admitted, as we still have the 'Principle' all cases must be weighed on their own merit
But, he also has the discretion to offer 'direction' as to whether separate charges should be brought over the 'crime' that generated the 'illegal' evidence.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't get too worried. ACPO Plc is always coming up with some daft scheme to grind us under heel. Just keep an eye on any DfT consultations that come up.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 24 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

As above, they are 'cracking down' on people that hold the camera in their hands whilst they go along as it's surprising how many people think it's a good idea. Rolling Eyes.

Of course, they could crack down on all the idiots on the road that don't look for bikers, the 92 year olds still driving that have neglected to tell the DVLA about their eyesight-ending cataracts etc however it's easier to be seen doing something and they've picked the easy one. Wink.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 25 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Righto, nothing to be too worried about then!

Would've been nice to know exactly what was said though. I mean, what tard uses a camera whilst driving?

Thanks anyway Thumbs Up
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