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| L-Jam |
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 L-Jam World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 12:04 - 25 May 2011 Post subject: Insurance companies really are cunts... |
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Alright guys
Basically MCE sent me a letter just then to tell me to ring them as they are having trouble with a renewal price
I am 19 with 3 years NCB, insured a CBR600F with them last year for £500 tpft.
The guy turns around and tells me it's probably going to double because this year all insurance companies have decided they're not going to insure riders under the age of 21 on large capacity motorcycles, last year one insurer did it so everybody followed, this year no one is doing it.
Look on GoCompare and it has indeed doubled for everyone, most insurers wont insure me.
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK.
Since when did insurers get together and decided that they hate under 21's? Since when am I who has rode every day for the last 3 and a half years, held my licence for 2 years and never had a single accident been more prone than someone who's brand new on a bike at 21?
This has really fucked me off because I am going to struggle to insure the ninja I'm getting, all because insurance companies have decided to blanket fuck us.
To top it off the guy was a cock on the phone, acting as if he was super fucking rider because he was older than me and I had no right to be on a 600.
Anyone else had similar experiences? I am not being forced onto a smaller capacity machine, considering fucking white lying on the insurance form now to get it down as much as possible because the cunts are dicking me over after another year of NCB. ____________________ Journalist, student, egotist.
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If companies collaborate to fix prices, that is illegal, as has been seen many times with companies getting fined huge amounts......
So what is it with insurance companies that they can do just that and get away with it  ____________________ Victory Cross Country American tractor. |
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 Posted: 12:26 - 25 May 2011 Post subject: Re: Insurance companies really are cunts... |
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| L-Jam wrote: | The guy turns around and tells me it's probably going to double because this year all insurance companies have decided they're not going to insure riders under the age of 21 on large capacity motorcycles, |
Perhaps they've noted that young fellows tend to be a bit angry and excitable.
Right, channel that energy into something useful.
Write to them and tell them that they can either:
1) Provide you with a copy of that phone conversation as you are entitled to under the Data Protection Act, so that you can provide it to the Financial Services Ombudsman as evidence of illegal collusion and price fixing.
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2) Quote you delirious.
Alternatively, since we've established that insurers are infamous villains, you could assume that you've just been lied to, and that there is an underwriter out there offering reasonable policies to under 21s. Go and find them, then give them your business. That's how the market works, or is supposed to work. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 Posted: 12:46 - 25 May 2011 Post subject: |
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I'm happy to ring around every insurance company under the sun, but it's going to get boring very quickly if they all tell me the same thing.
Anyone know any good ones for younger riders?
I know it differs with the person and all but I think the bigger companies are just going to tell me to fuck off. ____________________ Journalist, student, egotist.
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You'll get good customer service from Carol Nash and Bennets. Although expensive they'll be more open i imagine on the subject. MCE from what i've been told aren't great. ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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| killa wrote: | MCE from what i've been told aren't great. |
Cheap though, l,m paying £200 a year TPFT for 4 bikes on one policy at the age of 24.
Not had any problems with them yet and have had 3 claims handeld by them in the past. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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 Posted: 13:10 - 25 May 2011 Post subject: |
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18 no NCB, (never been insured for a full year, switched bikes too quickly ) £8000 claim on me from 2009.
£507 TPFT on the Hornet.
Look at what you'll priced on a naked, you'll see a considerable difference. (In my experience it was a 1/3 of what I was paying on my GSXR) ____________________ "Let's face it, this is not the worst thing you've caught me doing."
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L-Jam...
Yes, Insurance Companies are tossers, they aren't human beings, or social workers, or anything, they are accountants.
Only reason they still employ biological organisms in the industry is becouse they are cheaper than computers, and don't argue back as much.
OK!?!
Now, you are a teenager still, and by NOW I would have thought you would have got the idea that a heck of a lot of shit in this world is about tempering your enthusiasm.... boring old farts like me.... its one of the few joys we have left, after becoming slaves to the bean counters, taking out a mortgage, to try and spoil the 'fun' for all those with more freedom and liberty to have it....
And you are trying to insure a vehicle with the performance of a Super-Car.......
THAT sounds like FAR too much fucking fun!
So, you ought to be penalised, and if you have the disposable income to 'waste' on such frivilouse irrelevances.... then it is the moral duty of the older generation to deprive you of your excess earnings!
Take it as a life lesson..... Shit rolls down hill..... trick is to clamber faster then the shit slides, or you end up right at the bottom covered in shit, with younger, less jaded individuals clambering over the top of you in their bid to get to the top of the dung heap! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Mate, I had exactly the same.
I looked last year at getting a Daytona 675, just for the hell of it. I couldn't actually afford one, but looked at insurance prices anyway.
Last year, this is 17, licence for 5 mins, 1 years ncb. They wanted £1200 TPFT
Looked this year, 2 years ncb, licence 1 year, full car licence, driving a car, etc. Cheapest I could find was £2500.
Sadly, as with everything there are a minority that reuin it for everyone. But in the case of under 25's, its more majority sadly.
Apparently 1 in 3 young drivers between the age of 17-25 write off a car in their first year of driving. That's crazy!!
I do think its a piss take though when they turn round and say that females can't have cheaper car insurance because that's sexists, but yet young drivers can be anally raped when it comes to getting insurance because that's not ageist is it?
Don't get me started on insurance. Sadly, there are no regulations what so ever and they can do whatever they like.
For those oldies on here who don't see the issue, on go compare the cheapest quote I can get for a 1.0l corsa at the moment is £3000 TPFT??
Also for the haters that say we are a liability, yeah, the statistics prove we crash cars and bikes, but what about the ones that don't? What about the people that use their bike on a regular basis and are mature and sensible, why should we get penalised ?? ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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| 0l0dom0l0 wrote: | Also for the haters that say we are a liability, yeah, the statistics prove we crash cars and bikes, but what about the ones that don't? What about the people that use their bike on a regular basis and are mature and sensible, why should we get penalised ?? |
They dont.... becouse they are mature ans sensible, and don't go looking for large capacity hyper-bikes......
They choose GS500's and keep the restrictrs in like they are supposed to... go to BMF rallys and know all about shaft drives and old Matchless's.......
And the older generation can pat them on the back and say, "There you go, I told you you could STILL have fun without a hundred horse power, see!" ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | They dont.... becouse they are mature ans sensible, and don't go looking for large capacity hyper-bikes......
They choose GS500's and keep the restrictrs in like they are supposed to... go to BMF rallys and know all about shaft drives and old Matchless's.......
And the older generation can pat them on the back and say, "There you go, I told you you could STILL have fun without a hundred horse power, see!" |
Which is why I have a Fazer...
I wouldn't exactly call a cbr600f a 'hyper-bike'
Also, so you think a middleage man, with a GSXR1000 as a 'fun' bike that goes out at the weekend purely to blat it about is less likely to have an accident than a young person who rides 40 miles each day commuting?
I would say anyone who uses their bike as a 'tool' not a 'toy' is less likely to have an accident.
But yeah, I can see your point. It's just things have moved on since the older generation were young.
| ms51ves3 wrote: | What's really annoying, is I can get a £5000 quote at my postcode on a TPO policy, but it drops to £1400 if I put in a postcode of a nice area. That's complete bollocks because it has no bearing at all on whether there would be a claim or not.
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Please do enlighten me as to which insurer you are getting this quote from ?
At the end of the day no one wants to insure us because we are a 'liability'. Shame really. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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Life is hard isn't it? When I was 19 I struggled to find the money for a bus to work let alone keep my bike on the road. We used to have a thing called "living within your means" I don't think it still exists.
Still time moves on and now it costs me about £50 to insure a CBR6 fully comp, I had two other bikes on the policy but they were free to insure. It all balances out in the end. ____________________ https://www.metacafe.com/watch/1972097/how_to_behave_on_a_forum/ |
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Old Thread Alert!
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