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Ichy
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Moving the bike Reply with quote

The drive to my garage is on a quite steep downwards slope. This means that when I want to get the bike out I can't push the bike out but have to go through a 20 point turn so that its pointing the right way before I ride off.
I'm looking for a turntable of some description so that I can spin it around inside the garage. This isn't helped by the fact that it doesn't have a centre stand.
My original plan was to buy a Biketurner. https://www.biketurner.co.uk/html/biketurner.html
Looks well made and the price is better than most. Unfortunately they don't make them any more.

All the other turntables seemed to be priced at £600+. Far too much.

The other option is a Biketek motorcycle mover. https://www.bikermart.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=PDSMVR07
Price is good but I'm not sure how well those wheels will fair up over time.

The final choice is DIY. For £70 I can make one myself. https://www.myspace.com/daveminer/videos/home-made-motorcycle-turntable-video/107020114

Durability is the only thing in question.


So. Has anyone tried any of these? Any other options? Please don't suggest turning it on the sidestand, its not going to happen.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go for making it yourself. I mean how hard can it be? Turntable made with bearings, use an old steel rung ladder and put sheeting over it and bodge the 2 together. Possibly make a stand rest for the bike or put the stand on a block of wood so you can leave the bike on the turn table over night.

Expecting pictures in the project section. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/RidingEvents/ridingeventsresults/Riding-skills/2009/July/jul3109-Riding-skills-how-to-turn-your-bike-on-the-sidestand/

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Please don't suggest turning it on the sidestand, its not going to happen.

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PostPosted: 10:56 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not roll out backwards?

Put it in gear with the engine off and use the clutch to control your speed.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

here you go Thumbs Up plans for a turntable

How about this? cheap option
All you need is a to make a runner for the wheels and bolt it onto the turntable.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.andersonstands.com/gallery/rear_stands/images/Spacesaver_Uni_AS3029.jpg

$220 AUS
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't you try a local workshop?

I did one a few weeks ago, just folded a 3mm channel, with a 15mm double return so it was more than strong enough, then welded some plates with gussets and castors on. He was over the moon with it, and said it worked perfectly.

That was abou an hour and a ½'s work.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also say roll it in backwards. Failing that, you could pick up the wheels and swing the bike round on its side-stand as a temporary solution, if you have the space to do that.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the side stand to turn the bike.
Stand on the side of the side stand, put the stand down a, hold both bars. turn the front wheel away from you, keep your hip close to the bike and pull on the bars untill the bike lifts front and back, then just turn the bike with it resting on your thigh/hip.

I turn a fully laden Varadero like that so any other bike should be dead easy to do.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Use the side stand to turn the bike.
Stand on the side of the side stand, put the stand down a, hold both bars. turn the front wheel away from you, keep your hip close to the bike and pull on the bars untill the bike lifts front and back, then just turn the bike with it resting on your thigh/hip.

I turn a fully laden Varadero like that so any other bike should be dead easy to do.


I wouldnt trust that method with my bike. The thing leans over quite far on the side stand and knowing my luck I'd end up with 200Kg of bike on the floor with a bent stand.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Why not roll out backwards?

Put it in gear with the engine off and use the clutch to control your speed.


The bit of detail that I missed is that I have about 10 foot uphill and about 40 foot down. it the 10 foot that stops me rolling backwards, its too steep to paddle the bike up in reverse.

I like the suggestion Bazza.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of them web straps with the tightening device on it that they use to hold heavy duty stuff to lorrys.

Hang it from ceiling, attach one end to headstock and the other to rear of bike, tighten strap till bike is off ground, spin it round, ride out garage forwards.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Why not roll out backwards?

Put it in gear with the engine off and use the clutch to control your speed.


Why not the front brake?

I have been backing my bike out my garage down the slope like this for years.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:


The bit of detail that I missed is that I have about 10 foot uphill and about 40 foot down. it the 10 foot that stops me rolling backwards, its too steep to paddle the bike up in reverse.

I like the suggestion Bazza.


Sounds like you need the use of a JCB for a day rather than a bike turntable.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:

Why not the front brake?

I have been backing my bike out my garage down the slope like this for years.


Depends on how steep the slope is and what it's surfaced with. The front wheel will sometimes just lock and slide, especially if it's on gravel.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 28 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Use the side stand to turn the bike.
Stand on the side of the side stand, put the stand down a, hold both bars. turn the front wheel away from you, keep your hip close to the bike and pull on the bars untill the bike lifts front and back, then just turn the bike with it resting on your thigh/hip.

I turn a fully laden Varadero like that so any other bike should be dead easy to do.


Go and watch the guys moving bikes around in any dealers and you'll see the above recommendation in action every day!
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 29 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've turned bikes on the side stand before. I'm now old with a knackered ankle, knees, and wrists. I don't fancy being half way through a turn when one decides to give up the ghost.

I think I'm going for the DIY option. Looks more fun.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 29 May 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:

I think I'm going for the DIY option. Looks more fun.


Good answer.
Any chance of a paint diagram describing the space? That sounds like a pretty wild parking arrangement you've got going on there...
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 08 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DW7Di7x-Bw

£50 in total, £40 was for the ramps.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 08 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely bit of engineering. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 08 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

another vote for rolling backwards into the garage using the front brake

he said its a slope so it wont be gravel, as gravel wont stay on a slope
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 08 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like it works a charm
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More pics or a sketch on its way?

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PostPosted: 00:45 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have to have mine facing forwards but I have slight ocd Laughing I know my bike is probably a fair bit lighter and you've made the turntable now but I put my stand up, lean the bike a fair way over so it is right on the edge of the tyre and do a hip spin.

That's when you spin it 180 on the spot so no need for a turntable at all! Just grab the front brake and use the throttle to spin up the rear. Use your hip to push it. Half way through yank the front end across the do the other half of the turn.

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PostPosted: 06:45 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

robocog wrote:
looks like it works a charm
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More pics or a sketch on its way?

Regards
Rob


I've got to take it apart to put it together properly so I'll do some pics then. Not much different than the one in my first post. I was surprised just how well it worked.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

paddock stand?
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