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itsallgood
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: cg125 top speeda Reply with quote

My cg125 tops out at an indicated 55mph. It feels like its going to fall to peices at that speed too....

Im not looking to hit the ton or anything but I thought I should see closer to 65mph?

The bike pulls cleanly enough until about 45mph and then really struggles.

Its a 1993 brazil model with 23k. Prior to me getting it the bike had sat for a couple of years. I treated it to a full service, new plug, battery etc and checked the valve clearances. I havent touched the points or checked timing yet.

Carb might need cleaned? Oh and someone has drilled the airbox :s
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ORourke
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've no experience with the CG's top speed, but when you said someones drilled the air box, that set the alarms off. The carb is most likely still set up for the factory air box, and depending on the extent of the drilling in the air box, the mixture might could be off near the top end. If you want to check this you can run the bike at the indicated 50-55 mph for as long as you dare, stop and immediately check the colour of the plugs.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

An incline and head wind will affect a 125, but I would have thought it would hit 60-65 on the flat.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a cb 125 that would top out at 50 mph, i changed the oil and ran some redex through with the fuel. After that i could just about get 70 mph on a good warm day downhill. Maybe you could try it, it cant hurt and if you dont get a better top speed at least you've given the engine a good internal clean Thumbs Up
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itsallgood
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took it another run this afternoon and managed just under an indicated 60 on the flat so maybe im just not working it hard enough!
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ye i did london to bristol alot on my little cg back in the day. although mine is a little newer (2000 i think) with 15,000mileage roughly, i do indeed recall the crazy vibration of the bike and reaching at least 65... i think my record was 69mph downhill Razz

...and that was with an overloaded bike!


your speed should reach at least 60 i would have thought, but the vibration is standard, and kind of reminds you that you shouldnt really be pushing the bike that hard. plus you cant see shit in your mirrors theyre vibrating so much hehe.

some may disagree here, but i was told by my mechanic mate that you should keep 125's under 55mph, as when you start sort of 'touring' on those sort of bikes, youre poutting stress on the engine that it wasnt designed for.
...but hey, that may be part-bullshit, despite it being quite logical! Wink

without doubt, the CG is a marvellous bike though!!
ive neglected mine for 8months, still with a dead battery, and it started first time! ...can run on oil much longer than you would thnk too.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 18 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job on checking the valve clearances.

Yup, definitely do a plug chop to check the mixture at full throttle.

Also, are you getting any smoke in the exhaust? Your piston rings may be shagged. You can get a compression tester for about a tenner to check.
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i was told by my mechanic mate that you should keep 125's under 55mph, 'touring' on those sort of bikes, youre poutting stress on the engine that it wasnt designed for.

I run my suzuki vl 125 at an average of 60-75 every day, it screams like a bastard n gets as hot as a horny 16 year old but after 2 years and about 28000 mile it still seems to be ok. Maybe im killing it but it still gives me a top end of 80-85. But then again its a completely different bike to a cg and maybe my speedo is out. I am not very heavy and the run i do down the A45/A446 is a pretty good kinda mostly downhill run.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 04 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Mates CG can do about 85+ we did the highly scientific experiment of having a car stay behind him, the car was doing 81/82 and he was still pulling away on our local A road at 3am on a sunday morning.... So it is possible to have a CG that does a fudging awesome speed for a 4 stroke. I have a CB125 tdc from 1982, and that can do about 70. In the sense that i overtook on set A road, my friends car who was doing 65.

So, as long as they are really well looked after, oil changes every month and new spark plugs every couple hundered miles, they can do a surprising lot. Im only a fair weather biker who bought his little 125 for a laugh, hoping to restore it.

At the moment, its a bit of a heap with a real leaky carb and head gasket =(
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 05 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

the95th wrote:
So, as long as they are really well looked after, oil changes every month and new spark plugs every couple hundered miles, they can do a surprising lot. Im only a fair weather biker who bought his little 125 for a laugh, hoping to restore it.


get some new clocks, yours are faulty Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 05 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The95th: your mates CG125 doesn't do 85+mph unless it has been tuned and is likely no longer a 125.
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 05 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:
The95th: your mates CG125 doesn't do 85+mph unless it has been tuned and is likely no longer a 125.


I dont think even a CG150 kit would do that.
Bearing in mind a CB250... the slightly old one by bro had.. topped out with both of us at 85 Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 05 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My early model jap CG would hit an indicated 85mph down hill with my head in the tank...mind you i did gear it up loads and had the old type slide carb and less restrictive exhaust (poker mod) Mine had been standing for a couple of years before I bought it and it took about 3 weeks hard thrashing to get it to pull properly..think it had a serious case of glazed bore.

you might want to give (now dont laugh) using shell v power in it as i know a lot of people who try it in 4t singles that say it makes a real difference...i think the burn rate is a bit faster due to a % of ethanol in it. worth a punt and will help clean the fuel system at least.
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