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MarJay
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: AGV Stealth and S4 'SV' models Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm thinking of buying a new lid (as I have been for the past six months or so) and I've been hankering after a lid with an internal sun visor.

Initially I wanted a HJC-FS10, but was never really sold on HJC's quality. So then I looked to a Shark S19 Glow... and tried one on. It didn't fit properly. Sad

So, I opened up my Hein Gericke catalogue the other day, and saw an AGV S4 SV, which is a reasonable price, looks good and has an internal sun visor. So I did what most people would do and searched for reviews on it. It seems it is a new model, but all of the reviews (mostly on forums) I can find say its unuseable through wind noise.

Has anybody here got one of either of those lids, and can you give your opinion on it please?

Also, any other suggestions of decent lids with an internal sun visor. Full face only, I'm not digging the flip front jobbies.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a AGV Stealth (older model) it does not have a sun visor Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
I have a AGV Stealth (older model) it does not have a sun visor Thumbs Up


Yeah I know that, the Stealth SV is a completely new model, as is the S4 SV. The S4 didn't originally have a sun visor either.

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/thumbs/agv_stealth-sv_mat-black_right.jpg

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/thumbs/agv_s4-sv_naked_black-silver_right.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been looking for a lid. I have little to no experience to draw on though so am looking for a good fit primarily.

I too like the look of the AGV s4 and the stealth. I'll be popping into the dianese shop in manchester at the weekend to try them on.

Today I tried on a Scorpion exo 1000, which has an internal sun visor. I'm told the scorpion sizes come up small though which put me in a large size even though my noggin measured 58cm in the shop.
The cheapest I see a scorpion is £260

Sorry I cant be more help, but thats all I know Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schuberth and Caberg both do helmets with integral visors. I've got the Schuberth S1, it's heavier than my Shoei but suffers less with wind noise.

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PostPosted: 13:51 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a stealth, wind noise isn't that bad imo.

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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Age Ninja wrote:
got a stealth, wind noise isn't bad imo.


A Stealth SV?

Mal, Caberg are crap and Schuberth are too expensive.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah. its not good, but its not "unusable". saying that its my lid i use on my scooter, iv got a carbon HJC lid for my ninja's
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else think internal sun visors are shite ?
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspire wrote:
anyone else think internal sun visors are shite ?


They beat having absolutely nothing but are generally too light to make a massive amount of difference.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloke wrote:
Aspire wrote:
anyone else think internal sun visors are shite ?


They beat having absolutely nothing but are generally too light to make a massive amount of difference.


I think for example it would have made a difference today with the glare from the low sun on the way home from work. I reckon even a slight tint would have done me a favour. The thing that appeals to me about the AGV is that you can swap internal visors.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an s4 sv a few weeks ago from racevisors for £180 with a free tinted visor. I'm really happy with it the quality is pretty good and the ventilation actually works it's not too noisy either I found,at least up to 90 mph or so. The whole lid can be taken apart for washing and you can buy different cheekpads for £20 if you want to change the fit,and the standard inner visor is quite dark and really usefull ,I found myself using the clear visor alot more then my last lid,I'd recommend it if it fits you right ofc Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

deltron wrote:
I bought an s4 sv a few weeks ago from racevisors for £180 with a free tinted visor. I'm really happy with it the quality is pretty good and the ventilation actually works it's not too noisy either I found,at least up to 90 mph or so. The whole lid can be taken apart for washing and you can buy different cheekpads for £20 if you want to change the fit,and the standard inner visor is quite dark and really usefull ,I found myself using the clear visor alot more then my last lid,I'd recommend it if it fits you right ofc Thumbs Up


Cool this is exactly the kind of thing I'm after. I'm really appreciative of that! Thanks! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
deltron wrote:
I bought an s4 sv a few weeks ago from racevisors for £180 with a free tinted visor. I'm really happy with it the quality is pretty good and the ventilation actually works it's not too noisy either I found,at least up to 90 mph or so. The whole lid can be taken apart for washing and you can buy different cheekpads for £20 if you want to change the fit,and the standard inner visor is quite dark and really usefull ,I found myself using the clear visor alot more then my last lid,I'd recommend it if it fits you right ofc Thumbs Up


Cool this is exactly the kind of thing I'm after. I'm really appreciative of that! Thanks! Thumbs Up Very Happy


MarJay, how did you find it? I'm looking at a S4 SV too, as they're on offer at the minute https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_cat/839

I'm worried about the wind noise compared to my HJC.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wind noise at speed will ruin your hearing even if it's a "quiet" lid. Earplugs! Use them!
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got one. This is the second one I had as the first had a whistle that was so loud it gave me a headache at any speed over 40mph. The new one is much better but is noisier than my Arai.

Apart from the noise it is an excellent lid. The sun visor is useful and does not distort my vision, its light, plush inside with a ratchet seatbelt strap that is difficult to fit too loosely like a double D ring and yet convenient like a seatbelt type.

As long as I wear earplugs with it, it is a great lid.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive had the stealth, and now havr the stealth sv
The 'earlier' sv lids wekare really bad for wind noise due to the visor not sealing to the lid properly, u can adjust this wrre the visor mount with the screws but some are still noisy like mine...
I took mine back many times and agv are aware of this fault and will swap the lid for you, i on the other hand cant be arsed with the hassle and just live with it.
I have found that the noise is less when u swap the visor ratchet clip things.
The clips that either have the visor fully up or fully closed have the least noise... the blue ones they are....

As for interbal visor, great if u wanna use it with a clear outer visor but vibrates like hell around 45 upwards with the outer visor up....
Having the internal visor also makes the shell of the lid abit larger too...

Saying all that i do love mine, (stealth sv all gloss black with a black visor)
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tip 1.

Never ever touch the internal sun visor with your fingers. Smudge marks just won't come off without a proper removal and clean.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 09 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had mine since november, dont recommend it.


the sun visor is poor. Atleast - its too dark for my liking, and also a dull grey tint. I have hardly used it, about 5 minutes worth over the last 1000 sunny miles.

+++wind noise, had to take back for adjustment, which was rubbish, adjusted myself, little better.


but it fits me very well.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 10 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one too. Ripped the internal sunvisor out straight away though as I'm not keen on the whole top gun effect. I wouldn't buy one again tbh. The interior isn't as plush or comfy as my old arai and it feels cheaper too. It has lots of wind noise and gets very cold. Plus the chin bit scratches my ear everytime I take it off.

They do look good though, especially with a dark visor Smile
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 10 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Caberg V2R with the internal sunvisor. Wind noise is very limted which is nice Smile Not really used the visor much but echo the 'don't touch it' sentiments as your greasy prints will be a nightmare to get off!

Was actually looking for a Stealth when I bought the Caberg but none of the shops on the day had one in my size!
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 10 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Had mine since november, dont recommend it.


the sun visor is poor. Atleast - its too dark for my liking, and also a dull grey tint. I have hardly used it, about 5 minutes worth over the last 1000 sunny miles.

+++wind noise, had to take back for adjustment, which was rubbish, adjusted myself, little better.


but it fits me very well.


I'd say the visor is spot on... Don't get fobbed off with the 'adjustment' nonsense, say you want it sent back to AGV and get one of the newer batch which is quieter. Its not silent by any means, but it is a lot quieter and there is no whistle.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 10 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant be arsed.

annoyingly its been dropped a couple of times, not from any great hight, but enough to have loosened some paint inside and make the foam rattle.


In particular, using the carry bag, with the neck strap. The strap ripped off from the bag, due to poor stitching, and it hit the ground.

So while i might, just about, be able to take it back, I expect it would take a lot of effort.
Will be trying a different brand next time.


For the £200 I spent, why can it not include spare visors, costing the whole of £2-3 each to make...


it fits very well, and the seatbelt fastening is good, thats about it.
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PostPosted: 06:24 - 11 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

25% off a new AGV Lid Very Happy

https://www.visordown.com/product-news/get-25-off-a-new-agv/18252.html
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 11 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the SV and found wind noise too extreme and didn't fit my head great. The internal sun visor is not great optical quality and caused a slight distortion effect when used with the main visor.

I found it so bad, that I changed it during my DAS for an Arai, and was a massive improvement.
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