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I'd have called 999 and reported it that way. It could cause a very nasty accident.
You've done the right thing though and if there is an accident (now you've reported it) the council have to pay for the damages. So bare that in mind if you ever come off on Diesel, call the police and if it's been reported you can claim all the damages back. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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Same problem here, made a thread about it a couple of weeks ago. Everywhere in the road. I'm pretty confident it's the Binmen's truck that's causing it. It's everywhere, on every road, every side street, literally all over.
I get really paranoid about it too. Even if it's not affecting me, whenever I turn it kinda feels like my back end is going, I'm not sure if it really is though.
Also, I'm not sure how the compensation thing would work. It's kinda like potholes in a sense. They may have been reported, and people still damage their vehicles on them, but rarely anybody will get anything from the Council on it. The duty of care they have is quite a long time on potholes, I assume they'd have a get-out-of-stick free card on diesel too. ____________________ Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
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I reported an oil spill on a minor road in bedford (it was actually the hire van I was driving) ...........picked up this hire van that had just been serviced and drove it about 8 miles stopped to see the last of the oil coming out of the sump.
Called the Highway department of the local council who were there in 15 minutes with kitty litter!  ____________________ The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train! |
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I reported an oil spill on a minor road in bedford (it was actually the hire van I was driving) ...........picked up this hire van that had just been serviced and drove it about 8 miles stopped to see the last of the oil coming out of the sump.
Called the Highway department of the local council who were there in 15 minutes with kitty litter!  ____________________ The light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train! |
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Hey,
To be honest I've had enough with the increasing amount of whining coming from a certain group of bikers about 'the dangers of diesel'.
You can ride through diesel. Unless you are cranked over a fair fair bit you can just ride through it, if I can do it so can other bikers. Being in contact with diesel for effectively a tenth of a second will not damage that part of your tyre either.
Not only that, but there are other things such as stone chips from the Council, objects in the road, flying objects hitting you, large puddles for hydroplaning and black ice which are just if not more dangerous and almost no-one mentions those.
From what I can see one biker complains about diesel, then another rider assumes it's a massive problem, avoids it forever on the road and then complains the next time they see a spot of it on the road.
As for the compensation, get out of the culture! If there is a hazard (diesel) in the road in front of you, and YOU decide to not avoid it and YOU decide to ride through it and YOU cannot keep the bike upright meaning YOU crash then there is NOTHING to claim for! You crashed in the circumstances, chin up and deal with it, don't be sucked in to the compensation culture, especially as you won't get a penny anyway.
Rant over, cheers! ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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| Paulington wrote: | Hey,
To be honest I've had enough with the increasing amount of whining coming from a certain group of bikers about 'the dangers of diesel'.
You can ride through diesel. Unless you are cranked over a fair fair bit you can just ride through it, if I can do it so can other bikers. Being in contact with diesel for effectively a tenth of a second will not damage that part of your tyre either.
Not only that, but there are other things such as stone chips from the Council, objects in the road, flying objects hitting you, large puddles for hydroplaning and black ice which are just if not more dangerous and almost no-one mentions those.
From what I can see one biker complains about diesel, then another rider assumes it's a massive problem, avoids it forever on the road and then complains the next time they see a spot of it on the road.
As for the compensation, get out of the culture! If there is a hazard (diesel) in the road in front of you, and YOU decide to not avoid it and YOU decide to ride through it and YOU cannot keep the bike upright meaning YOU crash then there is NOTHING to claim for! You crashed in the circumstances, chin up and deal with it, don't be sucked in to the compensation culture, especially as you won't get a penny anyway.
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*thread nonsense alert! Paulington knows not of which he speaks*
Let me tell you a little story. A few months ago I was driving to work in my car. My car has 235 section front tyres, and 255 section rears. The tyres currently fitted are Bridgestone's stickiest flavour.
I decided that I would avoid the main trunk route from my house and sneak through the estate across the road to get to the motorway. As I started down the hill I noticed a wide stream of rainbow on the road. The weather was dry and fine, and there was certainly no ice about. I reached the roundabout at the bottom of the hill, and knowing there was diesel on the road I gingerly turned in to take the second exit to the right. I was doing about 20mph. As I straightened up the wheel (you have to do that in a car) I found that the car was continuing the turn in a most perplexing manner. I had the clutch down by this point, and I gently placed my foot on the brake, and yet the car continued to slide until I was in fact facing back up the hill blocking the exit which I wanted to take. There was no drama, no squealing of tyres... I just pirouetted around the roundabout in a four wheel drift under absolutely no control whatsoever.
Now, if that can happen in a car with more grip than a good 75% of cars on the road, what the heck would have happened had I been on the bike?
You're talking bollocks. Diesel is worse than water, worse than loose chippings and worse than snow. Its almost as bad as sheet ice (and I've driven on that without spinning!)
Diesel is lethal, and that is from first hand experience, not just me listening to others and panicking.
Oh yeah, and I think you're thinking of 'Aquaplaning'. a Hydroplane is something different, and it doesn't tend to be much of an issue on a bike when you've got a small contact patch anyway. Plus snow, standing water, gravel and such are generally avoidable, whereas it is less easy to see and avoid diesel.
Anyway, to conclude my little tale of woe, I did not damage my car (luckily) but I did phone the council, who came out not two hours later and spread a load of cement dust over the road. They clearly took it seriously. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Paulington. You are speaking out of your bottom.
I've encountered diesel spills on the road that I struggled to walk on, let alone ride a bike on. One in-particular where a mobile crane shat it's fuel tank over a half mile stretch of road in York I landed up getting off the bike and pushing it along the pavement.
Yes, you get an occasional drip which spreads out into a rainbow when it rains that you needn't worry about unduly but any reasonable quantity and you may as well be riding on black ice.
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What everyone else has said basically!
I went to fill up the other day and nearly dropped the bike when putting it on the side stand because of fuels spills on the forecourt! My foot just slid right out from under me. I certainly wouldnt want to ride through it  ____________________ "The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had" |
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| Paulington wrote: | Hey,
To be honest I've had enough with the increasing amount of whining coming from a certain group of bikers about 'the dangers of diesel'.
You can ride through diesel. Unless you are cranked over a fair fair bit you can just ride through it, if I can do it so can other bikers. Being in contact with diesel for effectively a tenth of a second will not damage that part of your tyre either.
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But what if I am cranked over on a roundabout? Last time I checked a round about is a massive thing of concrete with a tree in the middle. You generally can't see more than 5 meters in front of you. How am I meant to take avoiding action if I can't see the stuff.
I've done the petrol station trick too, where you arrive, put your feet down only to have one slip right out from under you. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 219 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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