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pj25
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: no claims bonus Reply with quote

Hi folks, I know this thread will have been posted before. Iv not had a bike now for nearly 2year. When i sold my last bike i had 5years no claims. iv just bought a sv650s. My question is will i have lost my 5years ncb? I can't find a proper answer anywhere.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like an answer to this one too.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No claims bonus is given and withdrawn at the whim of the insurance company regardless of continuity of insurance, proof or otherwise.

I was insured with the same company for 7 years on a classic policy. When I got a newer bike, they couldn't cover me on it. They provided me with a letter stating I'd been continuously insured for 7 years with them with no claims and I had documentary proof of 9 years no claims before that.

Nobody would accept it. Went back to zero no claims.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

think i mite just try my luck.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a feeling that classic policies are different for some reason and you dont build up a NCB with them as they are often a second vehicle to someones main one.

I had a classic policy on my car for a year, then switched to a normal policy that builds up no claims. Not sure what happens to my car no claims bonus, if I dont own a car for a year or so. I suspect that a letter stating no claims bonus will not be counted as such the next year, or 2 years later.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
I have a feeling that classic policies are different for some reason and you dont build up a NCB with them as they are often a second vehicle to someones main one.


In other words, a no claims bonus is not (like it used to be) a bonus for not having had any claims on your insurance and thereby proving you are a lower insurance risk. It's an arbitrarily awarded marketing incentive and a vehicle for charging you an additional premium to "protect" it.

When I first got car insurance, I got a letter from my boss stating I'd had a company car for three years without making a claim and they gave me three years NCB straight off. Things seem to have changed recently.

I have been continuously insured on motorcycles, without a break, since I was 16 and have never had a fault claim. I make that 16 years no claims. I only have 1 years recognised NCB due to creative book keeping.

My classic policy was a classic hybrid which did not include a no claims discount. I could have one modern bike for every classic. For some reason they couldn't insure an Enfield bullet (the premium for which is more than my VFR for some bizarre and unfathomable reason, it's the "main" bike on my multibike policy.). I was insured for that period and had documentary proof I had made no claims.

So. It's not a no claims bonus. It's a transferrable loyalty scheme. If your insurer doesn't participate in that scheme, it's worth fuck-all.
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PostPosted: 05:52 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd expect most companies (classic cover aside) to allow 2 years of no cover before ncd is 'expired', they would also require a statement confirming no bikes insured in the interim period. Some companies will allow 3 years but only if they were the last insurer.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Mr Wheel, a NCD is now a "thing", not a "state". A single NCD is built up per (qualifying) policy and is transferable to one other policy.

I'm fairly sure that at some point, insurers will introduce an explicit "NCD number" to identify a specific discount. At the moment it's all a bit vague and you could (in theory) send off copies of the same "proof" of NCD to two new insurers at the same time and hope that they both accept it.

Anyway, to answer the question, all the T&Cs I've read recently say that they'll only accept a NCD from a UK policy that expired in the last 2 years. You'll want to get a move on.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally it's 2 years before it 'runs' out, so try and it all checked up and sorted before then!

Never heard a case of requiring no bike insurance in the mean time.

You can have both no claims bonus and had claims in that time, if the claims were on another policy.
Protected no claims get a little more complicated.

stinkwheel wrote:

When I first got car insurance, I got a letter from my boss stating I'd had a company car for three years without making a claim and they gave me three years NCB straight off. Things seem to have changed recently.

This is still a case that some companies will accept that and others won't.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit i don't get is i have max NCD due to 20yrs driving a car, then i decide not to insure a car and insure a bike(named driver on current Mrs Pilch's car policy) only to be told they can't take NCD into account cos bike is diffrent transport. so i got an old car just to potter about in and keep insurance current. but when you get points on your license for a bike offence or make a claim on bike policy they hit the car policy or vice versa on renewal, wankers the lot of them!
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilch wrote:
The bit i don't get is i have max NCD due to 20yrs driving a car, then i decide not to insure a car and insure a bike(named driver on current Mrs Pilch's car policy) only to be told they can't take NCD into account cos bike is diffrent transport. so i got an old car just to potter about in and keep insurance current. but when you get points on your license for a bike offence or make a claim on bike policy they hit the car policy or vice versa on renewal, wankers the lot of them!


Indeed they want to have their cake and eat it. Unfortunately the government is very much on their side.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Never heard a case of requiring no bike insurance in the mean time.


Mr X has a renewal through that states now eligible for 5 years NCD and goes to a new insurer. New policy now in place.

6 months later, bike stolen, insurance paid out, inurance policy terminated.

Mr X digs out old renewal notice and goes to another company to insure his shiny new bike. New Co will be interested to know if any insurance has been held in the interim period between the old renewal notice and now. They will require a statement that they have not held another policy in the interim.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
They will require a statement that they have not held another policy in the interim.

Never seen this and I've held a fair few insurance policies over the years, generally using NCB where there's been a gap.

However, many places will request you send them the original proof of no claims bonus - so you no longer have that bit of paper.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the gap.

I has seen me plenty, squire. (car insurance)
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 15 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had and had a few where it's been near the 2 years, including when there's been a claim in the middle, but on a different policy.
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PostPosted: 02:39 - 16 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the comments on here have sparked a question. If I have a car and a motorbike, and the insurance for each is with a different company then how is NCD worked out?

On the car policy it asks if I also have motorbike insurance, which I would answer yes, and enter the figure, But it also asks what NCD on a previous motorcar which is more than the bike, so I put this figure in.
The bike insurance asks the same, if I have any motorcar NCD and what the amount is.

So the car is insured with 6 years NCD as I have been insured on my car for 6 years, this year will be my 7th.

The bike is insured with 2 years NCD (due to a gap between riding it reset) this is from being insured for the last two years on a motorbike.

both insurers know of these circumstances so if there was a problem they would have let me know right???
Or are they saying it as a get out clause if I make a claim in future they can just bitchslap me with it and void the cover and refuse to pay?

Also I noticed that the bike insurance when asking if I made a claim in the last 5 years blah blah blah on the list of stuff you have claimed it asks if ive claimed windscreen repair, which I did last year on the car, how the hell should this affect the bike cover!?!
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 16 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially on likely 'second' vehicles, some companies will ask if you have NCB for other vehicles.
This means that if you've just got a bike, but have a good driving record in a car, they may give you a lower figure.
And thus, it seems reasonable they ask if you've had claims such as wind screen claims on that second vehicle.

The actual NCD is always worked out purely from the one you 'use' - ie if asked to send the proof of NCB, that one.
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 16 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
G wrote:
Never heard a case of requiring no bike insurance in the mean time.


Mr X has a renewal through that states now eligible for 5 years NCD and goes to a new insurer. New policy now in place.

6 months later, bike stolen, insurance paid out, inurance policy terminated.

Mr X digs out old renewal notice and goes to another company to insure his shiny new bike. New Co will be interested to know if any insurance has been held in the interim period between the old renewal notice and now. They will require a statement that they have not held another policy in the interim.


Never had that happen to me either, and had a few gaps.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 16 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car and Bike NCB are separate, insurance companies which are not as much cunts as other usually allow you to use your previous NCB within 2 years untill they expire, at least thats how it was for me .
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 16 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. You can use it at the present company too. It is one complete year of NCD. You don't get the second year as you are cancelling mid term.
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