Resigning...

[AHurdwell]

So I work in a well paid job, that has semi-decent prospects, and the work is a vaguely interesting but the people I work with are a nightmare. Unfortunately due to the nature of the work I am on a 3-month notice period.
This is making it quite difficult to attract new employers and they are all asking if this is negotiable with my current employer. Unfortunately it is non-negotiable and I don't just want to walk out when I find a new job as I will need a reference from this place.

So, what are the consequences of handing in my notice now and then trying to find a new job in the 3 month period?
For infor I have 6 days of pro-rata holiday remaining for interviews etc...

[duhawkz]

stating the obvious, if you dont find another job in 3 months you would have no job/income, or have to grovell to your old employer to see if you could retract your notice.

Also if you do end up out of a job then you may not be able clain job seekers as you made your selved unemployed - or at least that was the case the last time i claimed dole money
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[ajbsmirnoff]

add up all of the sick days (with a sick note from your Dr as you are depressed) and holidays you can have without any reprimand, subtract this from the 3 month notice period. This remaining number of days is the notice period you need to arrange with your new employer. I'd try and please/ show loyalty to the new employer.

When I moved to my current position, I had almost a year of holiday entitlement saved, and left as soon as I had a new job. HR could have complained, but it was a university, and as such in chaos.

What I wouldn't do would be to do this without a written offer of employment/a signed contract.

[soforene]

[fatpies]

Why is it three months, is it because it takes this long to get a replacement to train up a replacement.

Or are they scared of you stealing their customers?

The second one is usually negotiable, except you reveal your intent to your current employer who may well not like it!

[GSTEEL32]

Depends what your job entails. If you handle sensative information, and your going to a competitor, there's a good chance that they can enforce their 3 month policy.

If that isn't the case, its difficult to see how they could uphold it.

Your reference should come from someone in the business that you know personally, so they're not going to mess up the opportunity for you to get on in life, plus I did hear possibly an old wives' tale that its now pretty much illegal to provide a cr@ppy reference anymore.

I'd tell them your travelling after handing your notice in. Tell them your plane leaves in 4 weeks and your going to be on it, whether they like it or not.

If, in the meantime, someone gives you a job opportunity " too good to miss", then you might have to reconsider your travel plans.

[WildGoose]

Consequences? Finding yourself without a job in 3 months.

Though this kind of deadline focuses the mind, and i've always found it far more stressful trying to find another job whilst still employed. Which is the opposite to what everyone always tells you, and i've never understood why. Nor has it made any difference to me , though this is only applicable to my personal circumstances and may not be to yours.

Employers cannot give a negative reference, only refuse to give one. Ergo, references are worthless. If I was an employer, knowing a reference was going to be full of glowing praise before I started reading it, what weight would that reference hold. Is it me?

Is there anyone at this current company that you rate highly enough as a person, such that you would value a comment about you from them on a piece of paper.

If you are set on leaving, don't put barriers up for potential new employers. "When can you start?" "When do you want me?"

Once your new job is secured, walk. Fuck the reference.
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[FirebladeRuss]

It's not so much the reference, it's that you're contractually and thus legally bound to work your notice unless your employer agrees otherwise.

I have yet to work at a place that has enforced my full working notice period. Generally, once you've resigned, your work output plummets anyway and they don't really want you there - but they do need to find a replacement. It's more of a negotiation between you and them.

Never burn any bridges with regards to work. Often industry circles are very small, and even if your company doesnt' give you a bad reference, word might get about that you just walked out, which wont' look good.
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[TUG]

The risk factor is too high imo, you say 3 months notice is off putting for new employers but you being unemployed is more likely to double your disadvantage.

I know it sounds stupid but its completely true, its easier to get a job when your employed than not.
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[base]

you have 3 options.

option 1 stay in the job for the rest of your life

option 2 look for work be honest with potential new employers about the 3 month resigning period,

option 3 look for new job find new job get new job walk in tell present employers you have had enough and walk. in the grand scheme of life what can they really do to you?

live life dont take to path of least reisitance for ever as one day you might regret it, and thats personal experience talking

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[colin1]

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[FirebladeRuss]

Ok, look at it this way.

If you were made redundant (as I was in 2009), the first thing you'd do is figure out out how long you had left at your current place to find a job - ie: what notice period you were on.

If the company turned round and said " yeah we know it says that in your contract, but we can't be arsed, so fuck off now and you won't get a penny more from us", you'd be up in arms and looking to take them to court for not sticking to the contract they and you agreed to when you joined, because you'd be out on your arse and in shit up to your armpits with no job and no paid notice period to find one.

They could give you your notice periods pay in one hit and tell you not to bother coming in anymore, that'd be fine.

Likewise, if they wanted to, they could fuck you over in court as well if you just give them the finger and walk.

The only get out here is if you don't have the contract in writing. That doesn't mean that you have lost it, it means if they never sent you a letter stating the terms and conditions of your employment. If you've not got that, then you can just leave with no repercussions.

As I said above, the best thing to do is get a job secured in writing, then discuss your notice period with your current employer. Mst of the time they'll let you go early anyway.
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