Redundant

[hellbound]

My Boss has sold the company to someone else and his words were

Between 4 to 6 months this company will not be owned by me, it will be owned by **** who are opening up a new depot in milton keynes, you will all have to reapply for your jobs by sending me your CV which I will pass on to new company, I can't promise you will be employed but this is the best I can do.

One of you will be made redundant next wednesday but its undecided who it will be.

3 of us have been here 18 months and worked for his other company for 2 years, 2 of us have been here 3 months and just under a year.

so come wednesday I may well not be here much (which will please some people) unless i am one of the ones he is keeping in which case I have 4 months to find a job

Now

Do i hold out in the hope new company takes me on or get a job closer to home?

(at the moment its 34 miles from my house to work)
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[tatters]

Its normaly last one in is the first out unless someone is held in higher reguard than others who have been there longer.

I would start looking for a new job if l was you, would,nt want to be in a suitation were l might not be keeping the current job if its likey l would be redundant next week or in 4 months time.
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[RichieZX6R]

[growler]

look into TUPE as it may apply to you

means the new employer has to employ you on the same contract
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DILLIGAF

[Rogerborg]

Damn, sorry to hear that.

On the face of it, TUPE should apply, your service and current T&Cs should carry over.

Always remember, there's nothing that compels employers to tell you the truth. You might be told that you've got no rights, that your previous employment doesn't count towards 2 years' service, that your current service or T&Cs carry over to the new owners and that you have to apply for your current job, but ultimately an industrial tribunal will make that call for them.

If you get the chop, you'll have to look at what, if anything, they offer you, and weigh that up against your chances of prevailing at a tribunal (usually pretty good if you've got documentation of them doing anything naughty) versus the chances of you working for any of the employers again. Whatever happens, try not to let it get bitter or hyperbolic - if you file a formal grievance, tell them it's "just a formality, nothing personal".

It'll depend on your industry, experience and contacts, but I'd start looking elsewhere straight away - far easier to get a job when you're already in one.
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[Clanger]

If it's you that faces redundancy, make sure you get gardening leave so that you have a month or two's grace to find alternative work but whilst still being paid.

Start applying for other jobs NOW. And if you have to re-apply, make sure your CV is tip-top. Start printing off a few CV's courtesy of work's printing cartridges, and make copies of everything that might be useful for any action you might be forced to take in the future..
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[hellbound]

Thank you for your advice everyone (can't karma you yet but I will)

18 months service means I am under the two year bit so redundancy and garden leave doesn't come into it according to rules on redundancy.

I have decided to take this as a kick up the bum and find something closer to home.

I can even take less pay as I won't have so much fuel costs.
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[P.addy]

[NexusDragon]

As already said, look in to TUPE laws and whether it applies to you. I've been working at the same site for four years now, was outsourced two years in (through Tupe) to a contracting company who won a two year contract (so basically the same job, different employer paying my salary).

They have not performed well and have most likely lost a contract renewal. We are currently in limbo between being Tupe'd for a second time to a new bidder - Or.. well, I don know. Either being relocated somewhere else by our current employer or made redunant.

I'm sure there is a fine print which says having to apply for your own job is shunned upon as they already know who they want to keep, its just a legal way of them getting rid of you instead of making you redunant.
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[Rogerborg]

This "other company" that you worked for for 2 years, is it in any way related to the one you work for now?

Again: you will be told that you have no rights. Treat that as their opinion. Putting in a formal grievance costs you nothing except a bit of badwill.

And I agree that it could be a good thing. I was "obliged" to take a pay cut for a job just down the road, and it's worked out brilliantly - more money in my pocket (some of it thanks to a tribunal ), more time to sit on the sofa and eat pies.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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[hellbound]

Well the good news is it wasn't me.

So I have 4-6 months to find a job.

The sucky bit is as nothing is in writeing any time off for interviews will be counted as a days holiday
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May you always see the road rising up to meet you and your enemies defeated in the mirror behind.

[P.addy]

[Rogerborg]

Sick days - stress of worrying, innit?

Good luck with the hunt. There's usually something better out there - this could work out well for you.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike