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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Anything dangerous in brake light bulb? Reply with quote

Hi guys.

A quick question. Is there any dangerous elements in a brake light bulb?

It was a P21w 12v type bulb that I smashed in my garage by accident, and then I got some weird neck spasm thing just there. Could be unrelated but I haven't had anything like that before.

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, I don't think so.

Nothing that would cause a neck spasm.

I wouldn't put my face near one, smash it and inhale deeply though. Bits of glass, dust and filament.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
LOL, I don't think so.

Nothing that would cause a neck spasm.

I wouldn't put my face near one, smash it and inhale deeply though. Bits of glass, dust and filament.


It was right at my face as I was trying to get it out of the bulb holder. Didn't really think about it at the time, then when I was working at the vice I had that weird spasm thing. It felt like it came up the right side of my neck and up to my head. glad to hear you don't think so though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there is anything poisonous in a bulb.

Most likely thing is nothing is wrong. Do you feel ill or anything? It was probably just a normal spasm.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was anything that dangerous - cause muscle spasms if it broke nearby Shocked in a lightbulb

Do you really think Health and Safety in the UK would allow them to be sold?
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was just a coinsidence dobnt worry about it!

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for the help guys.

I guess I am just being paranoid. I'm not really sure what the neck spasm thing was but it proper took me by surprise. Likewise, I didn't think there was anything in the bulb and wasn't bothered by it until I had that neck thing. I wasn't turning the vice or doing anything when it happened. I properly thought I was just going to pass out when it happened.

Thanks again. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

95Theses wrote:
If there was anything that dangerous - cause muscle spasms if it broke nearby Shocked in a lightbulb

Do you really think Health and Safety in the UK would allow them to be sold?


Fluorescent tubes contain high levels or mercury, if broken you should leave the room and air it out for a while.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frost wrote:
95Theses wrote:
If there was anything that dangerous - cause muscle spasms if it broke nearby Shocked in a lightbulb

Do you really think Health and Safety in the UK would allow them to be sold?


Fluorescent tubes contain high levels or mercury, if broken you should leave the room and air it out for a while.


Which is why you should never have lightsaber fights with them.... Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 25 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Health and safety gone mad!

You wouldn't want to break and directly inhale the contents of 20 in a row, but there is no need to leave the room and air it out if you break one.

Even still, at worst it would cause mercury poisoning which has a long onset, for it to have an instant effect and cause muscle spasms with the quantity of gas that is held in a brake light bulb it would need to be as potent as Sarin or Tabun.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 26 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gas in the bulb is probably argon, the tiny amount in a bulb will do nothing. The only way it could kill you is if there was soooo much that it replaced all of the air in the room and you were asphyxiated.

Other parts of the bulb are the glass, a few wires, some tungsten in the filamen and tiny bit of lead as one of the electrodes - none of these are toxic.

The only way it could harm you is if you cut yourself on it or tried to eat it.



You will be fine, neck probably had a spasm from being crouched over by your brake lights for too long.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 26 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely you had an involuntary muscle movement from having the bulb smash near your face which has caused the spasm. Don't worry about it.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 26 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are full of vacuum, did you breath any of it in?
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 26 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a little extract I found. I hope it explains a bit about bulbs.

A halogen lamp also uses a tungsten filament, but it is encased inside a much smaller quartz envelope. Because the envelope is so close to the filament, it would melt if it were made from glass. The gas inside the envelope is also different -- it consists of a gas from the halogen group. These gases have a very interesting property: They combine with tungsten vapor. If the temperature is high enough, the halogen gas will combine with tungsten atoms as they evaporate and redeposit them on the filament. This recycling process lets the filament last a lot longer. In addition, it is now possible to run the filament hotter, meaning you get more light per unit of energy. You still get a lot of heat, though; and because the quartz envelope is so close to the filament, it is extremely hot compared to a normal light bulb.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 26 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's far more likely that you flinched involuntarily when the bulb went and the spasm a bit later was a result of that. Muscles are funny like that.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed I said lead isn't toxic Embarassed ...

I meant that lead is is bad if ingested - not when in a bulb stuck to your bike.


Ariel Badger wrote:
They are full of vacuum, did you breath any of it in?



I was the chemist at a fume cupboard company a few years ago and someone asked what carbon filter would be needed to deal with vacuum as it was on a safety sheet Laughing .
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