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Biker Alex
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Has anyone done a MOD 2 with trainers recently? Reply with quote
After 1st July?

I have the full kit, ruggid jeans, textile jacket, helmet and gloves. But not boots. Was thinking about using my work boots but that would be a real pain because I am traveling and staying near the test centre the night before.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I recall correctly, some places are trying to bring in 'proper gear or not test' kinda rules. I'd check with the actual test centre, to be sure.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
AnPhonEh wrote:
If I recall correctly, some places are trying to bring in 'proper gear or not test' kinda rules. I'd check with the actual test centre, to be sure.

Thats right apparently a new rule has been in force since the 1st which states ankles must be protected? But Ive spent so much on motorbikes recently and dont have much dosh left for boots
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
ROV Sparky wrote:
AnPhonEh wrote:
If I recall correctly, some places are trying to bring in 'proper gear or not test' kinda rules. I'd check with the actual test centre, to be sure.

Thats right apparently a new rule has been in force since the 1st which states ankles must be protected? But Ive spent so much on motorbikes recently and dont have much dosh left for boots


Just wear your work boots. You'll feel like a tit if you turn up and they don't let you ride and the cancellation will cost you more money.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just wear your work boots. You'll feel like a tit if you turn up and they don't let you ride and the cancellation will cost you more money.


This. If you dont have work boots then beg borrow and steal from friends just for the day.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bunch of safety nazis. Just wear what you need to for the test, it would be more annoying to have it cancelled Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
even if its not required, im pretty sure the examiner would have in his mind that not wearing propper gear doesnt demonstrate the right attitude, especially when it comes to deciding if that missed obv, or forgotten signal was a minor or a major!
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 04 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
The following are examples of clothing that are not acceptable:
lightweight training shoes

Did you agree to that in the terms and conditions when you booked your test?
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just go down in your work boots or carry em with you in a backpack and change into them.

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PostPosted: 09:49 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
They would be pissed if I turned up with what I wore today Laughing Bloody safety freaks.

Grab a set of cheap arse boots Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
The place that I did my DAS on wouldn't let us wear steelies. Their theory was that if you have a crash and the bottom of the boot gets hit upwards at the front, the toe cap can slice your toes off.

You won't find a proper motorcycle boot with steel toe caps.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well tbf its like taking a car test and not bothering to put your seat belt on, so i dont understand all this safety nazi bollocks. Just shows complete lack of care, therefore i agree you shouldnt be able to take the test in trainers.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
EazyDuz wrote:
Well tbf its like taking a car test and not bothering to put your seat belt on, so i dont understand all this safety nazi bollocks. Just shows complete lack of care, therefore i agree you shouldnt be able to take the test in trainers.


I rode to work today, in trainers and work trousers, doing well over 100 along a newly surfaced road... its not lack of care, its faith in my own riding Wink

I did my mod2 ages ago in textiles and a pair of trainers.

I took my brother to his CBT on a loaned GSXR1000 wearing jacket, gloves, jeans and trainers...got horrible looks from the CBT instructor who said I had no idea what I was doing Rolling Eyes Cue pointing out his students had jeans and trainers and were more of a risk than myself Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
EazyDuz wrote:
Well tbf its like taking a car test and not bothering to put your seat belt on, so i dont understand all this safety nazi bollocks. Just shows complete lack of care, therefore i agree you shouldnt be able to take the test in trainers.


I rode to work today, in trainers and work trousers, doing well over 100 along a newly surfaced road... its not lack of care, its faith in my own riding Wink

I did my mod2 ages ago in textiles and a pair of trainers.

I took my brother to his CBT on a loaned GSXR1000 wearing jacket, gloves, jeans and trainers...got horrible looks from the CBT instructor who said I had no idea what I was doing Rolling Eyes Cue pointing out his students had jeans and trainers and were more of a risk than myself Laughing


I have faith in my driving, doesnt mean i think 'I'm such a good driver, i dont even need a seat belt. In fact i might just remove them from the car, and while im at it, disable the air bags as well', because if i do crash at 30 mph, i would rather the seatbelt keep me where i am, coupled with a nice soft air bag protecting my neck from getting broken and face smashed into pulp, rather than flying out of the windscreen like Superman without his powers.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
I rode to work today, in trainers and work trousers, doing well over 100 along a newly surfaced road...


Hope the skin grafts don't hurt too much when something out of your control goes wrong.

Of course, it's your choice. All we (those that have been there) can do is advise.

I personally think the test centres have a point and are making sure that at least what they feel is sensible clothing-wise is a requirement for the test. So everyone comes away from the test knowing what is considered "proper", and they can then make their own decisions from then on.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have faith in my driving, doesnt mean i think 'I'm such a good driver, i dont even need a seat belt. In fact i might just remove them from the car, and while im at it, disable the air bags as well', because if i do crash at 30 mph, i would rather the seatbelt keep me where i am, coupled with a nice soft air bag protecting my neck from getting broken and face smashed into pulp, rather than flying out of the windscreen like Superman without his powers.


My car has no airbags, nor does it have ABS, or any grip for that matter... and its capable of faster speeds than my bike.. Laughing

Seatbelt is a legal requirement... so obviously wouldnt not wear it. Point im saying is its all about safety these days, I wouldnt go out without a jacket on... no reason, just prefer a jacket Laughing I could just wear helmet and shorts... but im not up for that Wink

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Hope the skin grafts don't hurt too much when something out of your control goes wrong.


Risk you take really, I crashed wearing all the gear after a people carrier pulled out in front of me, didnt stop me becoming a vegetable for 8 months, and in the first 4 months I wished I had died. Couple of burns and scratches is nothing... I'm quite happy to ride with minimal gear in this weather...as are many others, I dont reckon you should cancel someones test just because they arent wearing what you would like them to... should have to live by the law like the rest of us.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that it is a good idea to have boots on. I ride with all the gear on, but in the summer I get relaxed and just go with a helmet. However I have experience that a new rider doesn't have.
I think for new riders, it is safer to have boots because often they are shit.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
MinhDinh wrote:
I think that it is a good idea to have boots on. I ride with all the gear on, but in the summer I get relaxed and just go with a helmet. However I have experience that a new rider doesn't have.
I think for new riders, it is safer to have boots because often they are shit.


To be fair, I had boots on when I crashed, they reckon that without them my ankles may have been a bit more broken.

Problem was they couldnt get them off...and with an ankle smashed into about 5 pieces... the pain is quite unbearable Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
MinhDinh wrote:
I think that it is a good idea to have boots on. I ride with all the gear on, but in the summer I get relaxed and just go with a helmet. However I have experience that a new rider doesn't have.
I think for new riders, it is safer to have boots because often they are shit.


I reckon a more experienced rider might have fewer accidents but they tend to be at higher speeds, because the low-speed drops and low-sides that beginners tend to have would be replaced with SMIDSYs and longer slides, hitting things like kerbs and other road furniture.

And as you get older it gets less easy to heal from injuries.

So I reckon we should be trying to wear better gear as we get more experienced, not the opposite. It's not like we can't afford it, which is the excuse a beginner could give.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
njd27 wrote:
The place that I did my DAS on wouldn't let us wear steelies. Their theory was that if you have a crash and the bottom of the boot gets hit upwards at the front, the toe cap can slice your toes off.

You won't find a proper motorcycle boot with steel toe caps.


This is an urban myth, they disproved it on Mythbusters ages ago. Smile
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
yambabe wrote:
njd27 wrote:
The place that I did my DAS on wouldn't let us wear steelies. Their theory was that if you have a crash and the bottom of the boot gets hit upwards at the front, the toe cap can slice your toes off.

You won't find a proper motorcycle boot with steel toe caps.


This is an urban myth, they disproved it on Mythbusters ages ago. Smile


Yeah, I read that too. They're probably better in a crash than trainers!
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
njd27 wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
I think that it is a good idea to have boots on. I ride with all the gear on, but in the summer I get relaxed and just go with a helmet. However I have experience that a new rider doesn't have.
I think for new riders, it is safer to have boots because often they are shit.


I reckon a more experienced rider might have fewer accidents but they tend to be at higher speeds, because the low-speed drops and low-sides that beginners tend to have would be replaced with SMIDSYs and longer slides, hitting things like kerbs and other road furniture.

And as you get older it gets less easy to heal from injuries.

So I reckon we should be trying to wear better gear as we get more experienced, not the opposite. It's not like we can't afford it, which is the excuse a beginner could give.


Very good post. It's true that someone is less likely to be able to afford boots because we haven't just shelled out a lot on the tests, bike, insurance and security.

I think that it is true that the crashes by experienced guys are less likely to be low speed, but I would say most can judge and observe better and avoid crashes. At least for myself, I don't ride reckless as I do with gear on. Also I ride differently on roads I don't and do know.
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EazyDuz wrote:


I have faith in my driving, doesnt mean i think 'I'm such a good driver, i dont even need a seat belt. In fact i might just remove them from the car, and while im at it, disable the air bags as well', because if i do crash at 30 mph, i would rather the seatbelt keep me where i am, coupled with a nice soft air bag protecting my neck from getting broken and face smashed into pulp, rather than flying out of the windscreen like Superman without his powers.


airbag ... SOFT... really ? if you arm is through the wheel like you see alot of people doing ... the airbag will break your arm and your freshly brokenarm will break your nose
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
EazyDuz wrote:
Well tbf its like taking a car test and not bothering to put your seat belt on


Seat belts are a legal requirement. Helmets are a legal requirement. Hereafter dies your analogy.

As I noted earlier, I believe that the DSA are creating rather than absolving themselves of liability with this half-arsed measure, but it's going to take an ambulance chaser suing the Crown to prove it.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 05 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here in chard ready for my test tomorrow. I bought the work boots with me. I would expect them to cancel my test if i wore trainers (not that i agree with it).. but really they cant cancel with boots. Protects my ankles, they are very heavy duty so maybe the are better than some boots Smile

its meant to be raining as well, so i got waterproof high vis trousers and jacket. If I put the trousers over the boots they will probably think they are normal motorbike boots Wink

I guess thats one thing less to worry about for now
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