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kawashima
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: I get really tired when I ride with other people Reply with quote

I'm not good at riding with other people.
I get double tired compared to solo riding.
What makes me tired is
-I have to keep the same distance with a bike in front while riding in a line.
(If I keep long distance between a bike in front, I am told "come closer!")
-But I have to be careful not to crush him even if he brakes hardly.
-Cars try to break the line of bikes.

So recently I mostly ride alone to enjoy riding.
Can you enjoy riding even when you ride with other people?
Don't you get more tired compared to solo riding?
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

try leading instead.

you'll get tired as you're concentrating on following the other guy rather than just riding.

can end up a little boring too if you're just following the guy in front. (unless you're hooning it of course Very Happy)
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like leading or following... if I'm following we're usually going too slow, if leading I usually end up having to slow down every two minutes, lol.

Best way is to take a pillion! Can chat while having a nice little ride out, good fun Smile
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride alone then.

I don't ride with other people for a few reasons:

1: I am an unsociable cnut and there are very few people I want to spend time with.

2: I ride faster and more dangerously with others.

3: I like to go my own way, at my own pace and make decisions on a whim, can't do that with another person.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, pillion without comms, or solo for me.

for me, half the point of biking is to avoid distractions and let me concentrate on enjoying the ride!
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

supZ wrote:
try leading instead.

you'll get tired as you're concentrating on following the other guy rather than just riding.

can end up a little boring too if you're just following the guy in front. (unless you're hooning it of course Very Happy)

Because I don't have personal riding friends, when I go riding with other members, I attend small touring of the bike shop. They always ride in a loooong line of 15 or 20 bikes and keep speed limit.
leading bike is always long time customer of the shop.
And this is very boring touring Sad .
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh, I spend most of my time leading when we're in a group and I often also spend it worrying that I haven't lost anyone - not because I'm excessively fast or anything, but because my co-riders often don't know the route. I find that really tiring, personally.

Not sure what to suggest, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

snorty wrote:
I don't like leading or following... if I'm following we're usually going too slow, if leading I usually end up having to slow down every two minutes, lol.

Best way is to take a pillion! Can chat while having a nice little ride out, good fun Smile

I haven't took a pillion yet, I want to try it someday.
Once I asked my male work colleague to ride my rear seat (to practice), he was so scared and I couldn't do it.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, no. A scared pillion is a bad pillion!

Edit: Well, unless petrified. Then quite a reasonable one Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Ride alone then.

I don't ride with other people for a few reasons:

1: I am an unsociable cnut and there are very few people I want to spend time with.

2: I ride faster and more dangerously with others.

3: I like to go my own way, at my own pace and make decisions on a whim, can't do that with another person.


This mostly, apart from a couple of sane mates who i have been out with a few times.

Narrowly avoided a massive head on crash once trying to keep up with a friend of a friend a few days after passing my test. he was taking us to bike cafe and i told him i was new to riding and didnt want to play catch up but he still f**ked off at light speed and i had no idea where where were going. kind of put me off group riding to be honest
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Ride alone then.

I don't ride with other people for a few reasons:

1: I am an unsociable cnut and there are very few people I want to spend time with.

2: I ride faster and more dangerously with others.

3: I like to go my own way, at my own pace and make decisions on a whim, can't do that with another person.

Thanks. I will enjoy more solo riding. I agree with your comments.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've done before is agree to meet some biker friends at a location for lunch or something, but we've all made our own way there.

That way, you can enjoy the ride there and back, and also the bike-banter over lunch.
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
Thanks. I will enjoy more solo riding. I agree with your comments.




There are different types of group rides too kawashima, your experiences sound very much like the american idea of a group where there are 15+ harley davidsons and a big emphasis on rank, order, structure, lane discipline etc etc. Smaller informal group riding isn't as bad, if it is just you and one or two others then it easier to stick together and you can ride in a manner closer to how you would alone.

Smaller ride groups are going to end up faster and more dangerous than large structured cruising rides though. Two or three people end up getting competitive or subconciously not wishing to be seen as a slow rider so riding faster than they are used to. Whatever you do just ride for yourself, ride at your own pace and don't take risks because of pressure from other riders. For me, riding is all about being solo, if I wanted to have other people with me I'd take the car Smile .
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never ride out with others any more, for various reasons. Top of the listing being that I prefer riding alone Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: I get really tired when I ride with other people Reply with quote

I agree with you, I find group riding tiring and not particularly fun. I far prefer riding solo, in pairs, or loose casual groups.


kawashima wrote:
-I have to keep the same distance with a bike in front while riding in a line.


This is the recommended formation for group riding:

https://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/files/u64/motorcycle-staggered-riding-passing__1_.jpg

The suggested gaps are a minimum. I tend to leave a larger gap, because there are more things to concentrate on when riding in a group. Drop back when approaching a bend, as all the bikes will tend to move into a single line.


kawashima wrote:
(If I keep long distance between a bike in front, I am told "come closer!")


Always ride your own ride. Just ignore any fool who tells you to ride more dangerously, or wave them a friendly goodbye and go your own way.

Motorcycling is about enjoyment. If you're not enjoying those group rides, do them differently, or don't do them at all.

There may be other people in the group who feel the same way. You could ask if any of them want to go for a more casual ride.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: I get really tired when I ride with other people Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I agree with you, I find group riding tiring and not particularly fun. I far prefer riding solo, in pairs, or loose casual groups.


kawashima wrote:
-I have to keep the same distance with a bike in front while riding in a line.


This is the recommended formation for group riding:

https://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/files/u64/motorcycle-staggered-riding-passing__1_.jpg

The suggested gaps are a minimum. I tend to leave a larger gap, because there are more things to concentrate on when riding in a group. Drop back when approaching a bend, as all the bikes will tend to move into a single line.


kawashima wrote:
(If I keep long distance between a bike in front, I am told "come closer!")


Always ride your own ride. Just ignore any fool who tells you to ride more dangerously, or wave them a friendly goodbye and go your own way.

Motorcycling is about enjoyment. If you're not enjoying those group rides, do them differently, or don't do them at all.

There may be other people in the group who feel the same way. You could ask if any of them want to go for a more casual ride.


Your comment was really helpful for me Thumbs Up Your diagram was very helpful too. I wanted to draw that very diagram.
I think most of them didn't keep the minimum distance of 1 second.
I was so annoyed by that "come closer" guy.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding with other people is overrated. I typically find it t be much more fun if I'm out on a ride, stop off at a cafe, and get talking to other riders. There's very few people that I'll go riding with.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: I get really tired when I ride with other people Reply with quote

kawashima wrote:
I think most of them didn't keep the minimum distance of 1 second.
I was so annoyed by that "come closer" guy.


He probably got kicked out of his bōsōzoku gang when he hit 21, and misses it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer riding alone, as I want to ride to my own agenda (or lack of one) and ride within my own abilities - not someone else's. Group riding usually turns into a willy waving/top trumps contest.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often enjoy riding with other people, i have however played catch upp with someone and ended up lowsiding...so cant agree more with the 'ride you own ride'

On the other hand i often enjoy riding with ear phones in which i AMAZING!
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 06 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it tiring riding with other people... they up my pace! I quite enjoy it though, gives me a kick up the arse.

Ride at the front Smile
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