Poo. Car bought with bent MOT, etc. Where to go from here?

[Imonster]

Bought a Peugeot recently off ebay, had it HPI'd and that came back clear. Car wasn't in as good condition as described so negotiated some money off and went on my way.

Got home, gave it a proper clean and going over and it started to become apparent that it had been involved in a pretty heavy crash on the left hand side; looks like the front and rear wings have been replaced along with a dented front rim and replaced wing mirror glass. In my defence, the way the car was parked in the driveway hid these faults and it drove ok, but ultimately it's my fault for not checking it properly.

Wasn't happy, wrote the guy a recorded delivery letter strongly suggesting that he come and pick the car and refund us as the car clearly wasn't as described, which was received on the 8th. Obviously I didn't expect to get anywhere with this but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Anyway, looking at the MOT last night and it didn't look quite right; closer inspection showed the DEC of the expiry date to seem doctored (very nicely, if I'm honest).

Checked on the motoinfo site, and the mileage on it tallies up to an MOT that was done last April, not December and my car seemingly doesn't have a valid MOT on it at the moment. It has had a subsequent test apparently according to the site, which I'm assuming was a fail but I can't find out the full details of this test or why it failed off the site.

Half was paid by Paypal for the car and half by cash.

Obviously, kiddy is getting a phone call a bit later on and I'd like to resolve this in a friendly manner. What else can I do though If I don't get a result? Would the police be interested in a bent MOT or would it still be seen as a civil matter?

Sorry for the long post.
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[adamck]

[fiveus]

Phone police if you believe the mot is dodgy..Have you checked the engine a chassis numbers to see if the tally with the log book.
The police will be interested in this one I would also get in contact with paypall to retrieve your funds...

[Imonster]

Error: We are unable to process your request because of one of the following reasons:

the test number does not exist.
the document number from the V5C registration certificate does not exist or does not match the vehicle registration mark.

Fuck.

It was that site I used yesterday that let me know the last pass of the MOT was last April; this error's come up when I've tried to use the history checker. The document reference number I use was off the new keeper slip as I haven't received the V5 yet if that makes a difference?
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[fiveus]

i that case i would defiantly get police involved

[Imonster]

Will do. I think my action plan is to phone him today, let him know that the MOT is bent and give him one more chance to pick up the car and give us the cash back. Once the cash is checked and banked (if that happens which is unlikely I know) then I'm getting the police involved anyway as I don't want anyone else stuck with the car. I got done by a 19 year old kid FFS

Pissed off with myself more than anything; I've bought and sold 20+ vehicles over the years, did the right thing by HPI'ing it, but this was a pretty good forgery. Only good thing is that I now know about that MOT site linked above for the next vehicle I buy.
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[Chalky.]

I think you're doing the right thing, try to get the cash back by threats of the police etc, but if you go direct to the police he might get done, but you'll not get your money back.

Then police after.

[adamck]

[P.addy]

[Imonster]

Tried the above; thanks for the links. However...

All passes shown have expired. There are later tests for this Vehicle under a more recent Test Number or DVLA Reference Number.

I can't find a link though to give me what the "later tests" brought up, as this is the latest certificate I have for it.

It's been doctored from May to December, not April as I previously posted. And fairly obviously in a specific light dammit
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[jimspeed]

the mot site is prob not working now as they have recieved the NEW V5 number so the older green slip won't work (altho sometimes the green slip has an extra digit in the ref no try dropping the 1st digit in the ref no)
doesn't sound good tho was it a private sale or a trader?
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[Imonster]

Private sale sadly.
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[shereen]

if you paid via paypal, open up a case stating the item is not as described. If the guy doesnt respond you can escalate it and paypal will refund your money
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[P.addy]

[Imonster]

[Imonster]

[P.addy]

[Imonster]

[shereen]

[Imonster]

That is extremely interesting, thank you
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[0ddball]

Open a case right now, you can always cancel it if you sort it out in person.
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Can you get half your money back via paypal? Not all of it, but better than a kick in the teeth!

[Imonster]

Presumably if Paypal refund half the money we'll have to give the car back before the refund goes through, no? I've never had to deal with them in this way before.

Going to call them about Shereen's idea too; would be nice if we can recover the lot through them.
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[P.addy]

[shereen]