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woolley
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Frame garages? With an update on the bike Reply with quote

hey all

Seeing as i threw the bike down the road and off into a ditch Sad (whilst managing to get myself thrown into a tree)

Does anyone know of any garages or lads that can check the straightness of a frame? As close to Derby as possible?

Purely for peace of mind really, looking it over it looks ok but il always have that niggling feeling in the back of the old noggin.

Any help appreciated

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P.S. oh and the bikes a K1 GSXR 600 if that makes any difference


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PostPosted: 16:15 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spondon should be able to do it. I believe they're Derby based. It'll need to be striped right down. Some take the engine out, some don't.

To be fair modern frames are incredibly strong. You'd have done well to bend it if it hasn't hit anything solid.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for the replies Vincent and Big_Ham. Il give the both of em a bell and see whats what.

Really that much of a job? I was under the impression that it could be done as not far off a full built bike, just without all fairings, tank and airbox etc...

I have been told that it is highly unlikely, but its mainly the fact that i cant preoperly remember what actually happened, but the bike ended up in a ditch and wrecked basiclly every fairing on it. So i just want it checked out really, i dont want anything to happen due to something being slightly out.

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PostPosted: 16:34 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

woolley wrote:
I have been told that it is highly unlikely, but its mainly the fact that i cant preoperly remember what actually happened, but the bike ended up in a ditch and wrecked basiclly every fairing on it. So i just want it checked out really, i dont want anything to happen due to something being slightly out.

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It will be fine, I took my first CLR down the road 6 times at >30mph, the 7th time it impacted a Ford Galaxy and got ran over and then bent the frame.. You'll be fine Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
woolley wrote:
I have been told that it is highly unlikely, but its mainly the fact that i cant preoperly remember what actually happened, but the bike ended up in a ditch and wrecked basiclly every fairing on it. So i just want it checked out really, i dont want anything to happen due to something being slightly out.

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It will be fine, I took my first CLR down the road 6 times at >30mph, the 7th time it impacted a Ford Galaxy and got ran over and then bent the frame.. You'll be fine Laughing


Haha! i like the optimism! Your post definitely made me smile anyway! Its mainly because of the crushed tank that im thinking that it hit something, but then again that may have been my hip as i couldn't walk for a few days.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 13 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do it yourself to a certain degree. You need to measure the rake, trail and wheelbase. Then cross reference your figures to the manufacturer specs.

Any difference and you will know something is wrong.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting the frame straightness checked is unlikely to be cheap, and a pain in the arse.

I'd start by trying and measuring it up yourself.

See if the wheels are in line, see if there are any visible dents in the frame, then do some measurements, see if it's symmetrical.
I wrecked a Bandit frame by hitting a car, I put a kink in the engine mounts and snapped the pillion footpegs clean off. But then I hit something hard.

If you are really concerned it's snapped, replacement frames are often available fairly cheap. I picked up a new Bandit frame for £50 with a v5. That's almost certainly cheaper than getting it checked.

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PostPosted: 14:50 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... A bit of an update.

Ive stripped the bike down and had a measure of it all myself, and everything seems pretty much bang on. (made slightly more difficult trying to make measurements with a cast on my arm!) And not a single mark on the frame anywhere i can see.

Had a look at the wheel alignment and apart from the slight buckle in the front wheel, all seems ok.
Forks look straight too, so did the basic loosen them off a little and try and spin them, goes all the way as i would expect.

Ok then, time for the engine, i couldnt physically see anything wrong with it, and it seems to engage the gears ok (well first anyway, bloody posi neutral finder?).

Got it up on a paddock stand and pressed the starter. Yes!! Fired up on the button, after sitting around for a little while, i was hoping so. Revs nice and cleanly through the range and finds all gears no problems (at least i think so anyway, may change under load?)

At this point, i had a feeling that it was all going too well. When i noticed a couple of drops of oil on the floor Sad . Had a good look around the engine while running, and cannot for the life of me see where its coming from. Anyone got any ideas as to finding it?

So apart from this oil leak somewhere... It seems as though it just needs a new tank (on its way), either a new front wheel or it needs straightning and set of fairings (sourcing all OEM parts atm). which are then going for a full respray Very Happy .

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PostPosted: 15:00 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chances are the oil is just coming out of an over flow, the best way to find leaks is with talc

Like here

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PostPosted: 15:05 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talc!! I would never have thought about that. Cheers mate.
Il nip and grab some, then get messy.

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never knew talc was dual purpose, i just thought it was for finding fat birds what nots...
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never knew talc was dual purpose, i just thought it was for finding fat birds what nots...


Talc has many uses CLICKY LINKY Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 14 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ade75 wrote:
Talc has many uses CLICKY LINKY Laughing


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PostPosted: 05:09 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can have a frame checked for geometry easily and without stripping it down at all. There's a measuring machine like a robot arm with a pointer on the end which you pull about and touch points all over the bike, then the computer does all of the calcs and compares it to spec in the database. John Warrington Motorcycles has one I think.
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