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Should I stay or should I go now?
Feign diarrhoea at the final hour and apologise profusely. Possibly believed.
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Turn up, but outright rebel over paying money.
18%
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Turn up, 'forget money' (dangerous, as my boss will no doubt put in 'for me' and I'll have to pay it back AND look a dick.
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Only put in 100k, and tell them money is short until payday (look like a cunt on paper, but won't ruin wedding day)
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Just stick your head in (it's in walking distance, wish them luck and leave)
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Just go you tight cunt. It's a rich bitches wedding for $25, and an open invite to be hungover as hell at school. Just play the kids a movie on Monday and be done with it.
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: 'Mandatory' wedding invite- Go or excuse? Reply with quote

So, basically I've been invited to the marriage of a poor but stunning girl with the owner of my schools cousin. They barely know each other, and asides from the glitz the girl doesn't seem too happy about it (took her two weeks to tell me about it, and I've only been here a couple of months).

Now, I've never been to a wedding, but since I have no respect for the institution of marriage anyway... not too arsed.

That said, she was a bit of a friend when I first got here, and I do fancy the arse off her so would love to see her decked up and looking hot. She's stunning without a stitch of makeup...

But... my boss has told me I have to give 500k ($25) to her as a present. I am fairly brassic at the moment, and since the wedding is on a Sunday I can't really get too hammered (got to hit work at 6.50) so bang for buck is very limited.

Also, every Vietnamese friend I've asked has told me the 500k thing is bollocks, and my white friend here is adamant it's the only reason they invite white people because we fall for that.

I'm very tempted to hand in my (one month) notice on payday anyway as the school is irking me, and at worst I'll stay here until christmas.

However, as the tallest and youngest white guy invited, my presence will be missed.

What do you guys reckon?

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PostPosted: 06:26 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should point out the owner of my school is one of the richest women in Vietnam, and so is her husband.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell the rich cnut to fcuk off.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd tell them to get fucked. That's a significant imposition, and one that they've got no right to expect of you. It might only be ~$25 to you, but it's not so little over there, as you've told us before. Sounds like there might be a bit of Nigerian in her family's ancestry, to be totally honest.

Talk to the friend, though: make it clear that your bear her no ill will, just that you're pissed with the way her mother's behaving.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its Asia, it is a cultural thing.....

If people don't go they still pay. Think of it as a form of Baksheesh.

Not going and more importantly not paying is a major mark of disrespect and it will be remembered and may well affect job ops.

One of my former employees are a guy from Taiwan. He got invited to weddings and had to stump up £200 wedding 'gift'. Not doing so would incurr a serious loss of face for his family.

BS I know but you're in Asia now its how it works, you've got to roll with it.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

tbh, if your a real "friend" then you should want to give the bride/groom a present/gift to start off their new marrage. How much doesn't matter, its the thought that goes into it.

tbh, if i'd have found out one of my friends coming to my wedding was asking this, i'd have to question if they were actually a mate or not.

And imo, your reasons for going are pretty poor. Because you want to see a pretty bride in her wedding outfit. Bit lame that isn't it??

If your not a real friend, then simply don't go and do the decent thing by letting them know in advance that your are sorry but you cannot make it.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally we do give money for weddings, but no one has to.

Also, Bonny, have you gone soft? Vietnam has made you make too many threads asking for advice!
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any 'culture' that expects a gift of money as an obligation can go fcuk itself. No gift is an obligation, it's either sincere and given of free will or it doesn't get given at all.

On top of which:

"Also, every Vietnamese friend I've asked has told me the 500k thing is bollocks, and my white friend here is adamant it's the only reason they invite white people because we fall for that."
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daimo wrote:
tbh, if your a real "friend" then you should want to give the bride/groom a present/gift to start off their new marrage. How much doesn't matter, its the thought that goes into it.

tbh, if i'd have found out one of my friends coming to my wedding was asking this, i'd have to question if they were actually a mate or not.


I'll be attending one of my close friends' wedding in a few weeks - there is a core group of 5 of us who have been 'bezzie mates' from aged 13 or so.

I will not be buying him a present. I don't need to do so as our relationship is more significant than any gift I could give him (or rather, give his wife).

Judging the quality of a friend based on what material shit they give you is rather shallow.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
I should point out the owner of my school is one of the richest women in Vietnam, and so is her husband.

Ask the owner of the school to give you the money you're being asked to pass on? Smile

Or ask the girl her self about the $25 and explain you're broke but would love to come and perve on congratulate her.
There's the matter of fit relatives - but not something you'd be pay $25 for, really.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd buy them a physical present personally.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the thread then voted. Looks like I think the same way as most people.

Enjoy; post the photos Smile
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:

I'll be attending one of my close friends' wedding in a few weeks - there is a core group of 5 of us who have been 'bezzie mates' from aged 13 or so.

I will not be buying him a present. I don't need to do so as our relationship is more significant than any gift I could give him (or rather, give his wife).

Judging the quality of a friend based on what material shit they give you is rather shallow.


Its not an actual gift or money thats in question. Im not shallow at all. Laughing How dare you imply this. Rolling Eyes

Its the thought that goes into something. I.E We got quite a bit of money, but a small cheap gift that someone had made and spent time over was one of the best gifts we got. Its the thought that goes into something.

If you dont wish to send your mate and his new wife into married life by offering a gift to celebrate their new beginging, (be if pyhsical or otherwise), then I guess that shows how tight and selfish you are.

I.E im proper skint after my wedding, every account is in the minus. Its my best mates 30th, so we went and got him a gift he's been on about for ages, despite it cost £80 and putting me much futher into debt. Money is not the issue, its the thought. I checked with his parents, gf, all our friends, got time off work to go collect etc etc. The presents cool, but the thought thats gone into it means far more.

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PostPosted: 12:52 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Daimo"]If you dont wish to send your mate and his new wife into married life by offering a gift to celebrate their new beginging, (be if pyhsical or otherwise), then I guess that shows how tight and selfish you are.[/img]

No, it shows that I don't feel the need to demonstrate my congratulations by buying them some physical 'thing'.

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I.E im proper skint after my wedding, every account is in the minus. Its my best mates 30th, so we went and got him a gift he's been on about for ages, despite it cost £80 and putting me much futher into debt.


You're a fool. Turning the sitaution the other way round, would you think it really cool of your mate to buy you something fairly expensive (which you don't need), with money they don't have?

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Yeah, im shallow..... Middle Finger


I think you are - you use physical items to demonstrate how important people are to you, and presumably to judge how important they think you are to them.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny wrote:
I should point out the owner of my school is one of the richest women in Vietnam, and so is her husband.


Her husband is a woman? I thought that's the sort of thing that goes on in Thailand.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edit, not worth the typing.

Yes, your correct, the internet man who read a little text has a terrible character judgment. Story ends.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:


Also, Bonny, have you gone soft? Vietnam has made you make too many threads asking for advice!


^^This.

The 'old' Bonny would not need to consult the BCF massive for stuff like this.

Here's how i see it - you either want to go, in which case go, or you don't want to go, in which case don't.

Fuck the money (whether you can afford it or not). You can always pretend to play the ignorant foreigner.

Personally i think to expect people to bring a gift (of any description) sucks big time. I never go to weddings that have a 'wedding list' out of principle. At my own wedding i didn't do a list, i didn't expect anything from anyone. I fed and watered everyone at my own expense because that's the way i believe it should be done.

A friend is not someone who forces an obligation upon you.

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PostPosted: 14:58 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old bonny had more people in real life to talk to. I can't talk to anyone at work for obvious reasons, and I don't know that many outside.

You guys are the impartial crew.

When I say she is a friend, she was some very hot girl who once took me on a very fun bike ride to go get noodles. Other than that, we're not exactly close.

It's more the fallout side of it. At present, I'll see how expensive my weekend has been, and if I get any better offers for Sunday. Obviously I don't want to be riding around too much, especially as the (death) road to my estate is opposite the hotel they're holding their wedding in.

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PostPosted: 15:16 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're there to absorb the culture. Well, ripping off Whitey is part of the culture.

Ask the poppet directly if it's appropriate to give her money. Tell her that in your culture it's not considered appropriate for an unrelated young lady to accept money from a single gentleman, and you don't wish to imply that she's a tart. Two can play at that game. Wink
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an extra option. I just spent the evening with a group of Vietnamese friends, and the going rate is 200k. 500k is Saigon prices only. They all seemed affronted on my behalf.

So, I go, and 200 it is.

Balls to them. They can write me up in their book as a tight cunt. Least they won't write me up as a mug. And I will drink FAR more than that.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget, we want pics of the hot bride!
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
The 'old' Bonny would not need to consult the BCF massive for stuff like this.


New Bonny is in isolation...we represent 'normal' to him, which is - well positively scarey but lovely all at the same time. Wub
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 15 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know nothing about Vietnamese weddings, but in England, the guests feel like they are doing the bride and groom a favour by turning up when they would prefer to be down the pub, and the bride and groom feel that the pressies don't begin to cover the cost of the stuff consumed by each guest, but that's mostly because everything to do with weddings is over priced.

I reckon you finding out the usual going rate, which you have done, is the best way.

I reckon bonny should try going bcf cold turkey, to properly experience the culture.
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PostPosted: 03:01 - 16 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:


I reckon bonny should try going bcf cold turkey, to properly experience the culture.


But then I'd miss your wit, eloquence and astute observations.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 16 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very similar routine over here, monetary gifts, in sealed envelopes, are expected to be handed over, at the door, as you enter the reception.
Therefore wedding invitations are handed out willy nilly, I've lost count of the number of work colleagues who never speak to you, but gladly hand out invites.
The "happy couple" are not offended if you don't turn up!
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