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tutton
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Ebike and restriction lol! Reply with quote

After reading numerous times on here about ebike not asking for proof of restriction, i recently took out a month policy with them, they asked for my license etc so sent them pictures of it, got a letter recorded delivery sent on 15th, i recieved that on the 16th, says basically due to my license they require proof of restriction as the bike im riding on my a2 license is too powerful, now if they'd of checked the license they'd of noticed i passed my test on the 17th july 2009, so by the time i get back to them on monday, ill be out of restriction..
They cant expect me to produce restriction docs when im now out of restriction can they?
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my GSXR eBike gave me 2 weeks to supply restrcition proof. E-mail them monday.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Email them what, im not restricted, never have been...
and seeing as im unrestricted on monday do i call then and just say i dont need to? yeah..
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Email them what, im not restricted, never have been...
and seeing as im unrestricted on monday do i call then and just say i dont need to? yeah..


Have you sent off your license to be renewed? No? Well then it's own fault.


1. For believing everything you hear on the internet.

2. For sending off your old license where they won't check the date, only the "=<25KW" in the Codes area.

Just because you've never been restricted doesn't mean you don't have to be.


But yeah you, you know, man, just don't bother. You're in the right man, they'll only cancel your insurance and get you pay the rest of it + fees.

Not to mention making you state of future purchases of insurance you've been refused.

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PostPosted: 18:25 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember sending them a fake one that was made up in a word document with false info all over it Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i already have sent my license off to be renewed yesterday, havnt done it any earlier as that would be silly as itd still come back with the restriction on it!, i had to send the old license off else they were going to cancel the insurance nothing i could of done about that..
I dont see how they can demand restriction certs if i phone up on monday when im then unrestricted..
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ring them up or e-mail them (so you have proof of conversations) and tell them the situation.

But they'll probably argue that you needed the restriction when you under they're insurance, which you were, never mind how short of time it was.

Tell them it's now finished, and that you'll send them recorded delivery proof of the new license.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:
tutton wrote:
Email them what, im not restricted, never have been...
and seeing as im unrestricted on monday do i call then and just say i dont need to? yeah..


Have you sent off your license to be renewed? No? Well then it's own fault.


1. For believing everything you hear on the internet.

2. For sending off your old license where they won't check the date, only the "=<25KW" in the Codes area.

Just because you've never been restricted doesn't mean you don't have to be.


But yeah you, you know, man, just don't bother. You're in the right man, they'll only cancel your insurance and get you pay the rest of it + fees.

Not to mention making you state of future purchases of insurance you've been refused.

Rolling Eyes


What are you on about redoko?

You don't ever have to send your licence away to get updated to remove the restriction. It's just in this occasion that someone has been lazy and hasn't checked the date.

No one will be cancelling his insurance. His restriction period is up and he doesn't need to prove anything. I know because I have had a similar situation. They won't argue shit because he's riding within accordance to his licence.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you told them it was restricted when you took out the policy, so they have quoted you for a bike that makes 33bhp.

Given the restriction has been lifted I would imagine that they will be keen to quote you higher, given your bike now puts out moar powah.


I don't think you can expect to have it both ways, and my guess is your insurance company feels the same...
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: Ebike and restriction lol! Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
got a letter recorded delivery sent on 15th, i recieved that on the 16th, says basically due to my license they require proof of restriction as the bike im riding on my a2 license is too powerful


Is that in the terms and conditions that you agreed to?

Either way, get back to them. You don't want to have insurance cancelled. Feel free to be robust and say that the bike wasn't ridden, and that in any case, you could have ridden it legally while under DAS instruction for accelerated access, so they can sling their hook about your license not allowing you to ride it.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here.

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PostPosted: 23:01 - 17 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you entered into the contract you were in your period of restriction. They are perfectly entitled to ask to see this documentation as this is the information that they complied your quote with and forms the basis of your contract.

You could try calling them and explaining the situation explaining that you are now a unrestricted licence holder and it may become cheaper for you.......or it may not.

You definatly don't want your insurance cancelled over something like this otherwise it will mess your premiums up for years.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Dunkable wrote:
Here.

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Would that actually work? Shocked
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
mate your an asshat and deserve to get what evers coming to you, if you've took the policy out as restricted then the bike should be restricted and there entitled to ask for proof and trying to find ways around this is insurance fraud and is largely a part in why the rest of us have to pay so much more. it sounds as if you've not long taken the policy out so your best bet is a, ring them explain your restriction has now finished find out what effect this has on your current policy whilst explaining now the restriction has passed you will be removing the restrictions from the bike and will they still require proof of the previous restriction(yes i know you have none but admitting you were trying to intentionally defraud them will get you in an even bigger pile of shit) b, cancel the policy pay up whatever the short term cover they've provided is and get another policy with your bike properly declared and pay the premium that goes with it instead of shafting the rest of us over and don't think about replying with but everyone else does it, some people rape and murder does that make them things ok too because others do it?


Where does it mention he did this on purpose with the intention of defruading the insurance company?
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Email them what, im not restricted, never have been...
and seeing as im unrestricted on monday do i call then and just say i dont need to? yeah..


the above would seem to suggest so along with stating at the top that he's took out a policy which at it's start date has him on a restricted licence unless ive missed something somewhere which if pointed out to me ill likely retract my previous comments

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

swampy wrote:
Given the restriction has been lifted I would imagine that they will be keen to quote you higher, given your bike now puts out moar powah.


Often the reverse is true as you are a more experianced rider and as such less of a risk....

Don't bother trying to ring them, they only have a number for tech support.....
Just Email them advising that as your restriction has now ended, do they need proof that the bike was restricted, and that you don't have any proof of such, as its not a legal requirement to have this...
If they say they want something, then use the form above....
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask them exactly what they require as proof of restriction as there is no restriction certificate or any other legally required/useful document regarding restriction.


Sending a restriction certificate, faked or otherwise is about as much use to them as a soggy napkin with "less than 33 breaked horsey powah innit" written on it in a mix of blood, lipstick and crayon.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 please do feel free to shut the fuck up.
What ive done has in no way hightened yours or anyone elses premiums so do one.

Going to drop them a email now see what the score is.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J5 wrote:

What are you on about redoko?

You don't ever have to send your licence away to get updated to remove the restriction. It's just in this occasion that someone has been lazy and hasn't checked the date.

No one will be cancelling his insurance. His restriction period is up and he doesn't need to prove anything. I know because I have had a similar situation. They won't argue shit because he's riding within accordance to his licence.


Alright then, leave it.

Even though you took out an insurance policy under conditions of the bike being restricted.

Clearly you never have dealt with eBike before J5.

Leave it, see what happens. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 17:44 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell them the bike was restricted when you took the policy out, but as there is no legal requirement to have a certificate you didn't have one, so would be unable to provide it.

You are now out of your restriction period and as such you have removed the restrictors and are legally riding the bike full power.

They cannot argue with that.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
quick recap just to make sure ive not missed anything, you've taken out a restricted policy but ride the bike unrestricted that's insurance fraud and if you happen to crash it your insurance company will then have to pay out to any third parties involved and then attempt to recover said costs from you now in most cases this will lead to you going bankrupt as you probably won't be able to afford the costs so what do you think the insurance company does to recover those costs next? take it on the chin and write it off or put it onto the premiums of everyone else? restrictions are in place for a reason we've all been there you just have to take it on the chin and live with it not commit insurance fraud and shaft everyone else.

now if any of the above is incorrect then as i said earlier please feel free to point out which bit's and ill retract my previous comment of you being an asshat for committing insurance fraud

chris

the insurance companies will be paying out the third party irrespective of restriction. your making a very big and in my view wrong assumption without knowing my finances about whether i could afford to pay off a claim myself. besides i havnt crashed so your talking irrelevant shit, so as i said do one, i dont need you nagging me about stuff which i frankly do not give a shit what you think Smile
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

last comment but it is that yes they'll pay out for 3rd party damages even if your policy was invalid but they will sue you for the money, about 8 years ago i wrote off a car and took out a couple of sections of motorway crash barrier with it the bill for the replacement of the crash barriers was circa 80k if you can afford that sort of cash without bankrupting yourself then why are you trying to get a policy cheaper by declaring the bike restricted when it isn't. id be surprised that even though your out of your restriction that they wouldn't put your premium up as your now riding a faster bike than that when you took the policy out

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PostPosted: 19:40 - 18 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomp1983 wrote:
last comment but it is that yes they'll pay out for 3rd party damages even if your policy was invalid but they will sue you for the money, about 8 years ago i wrote off a car and took out a couple of sections of motorway crash barrier with it the bill for the replacement of the crash barriers was circa 80k if you can afford that sort of cash without bankrupting yourself then why are you trying to get a policy cheaper by declaring the bike restricted when it isn't. id be surprised that even though your out of your restriction that they wouldn't put your premium up as your now riding a faster bike than that when you took the policy out

chris


Silence small one.

Ever broke the speed limit? Then you sir, are an asshat.

I NEVER rode restricted... loads of people here never bothered. I crashed without restrictors in... nothing was said Thumbs Up
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