Work, general staff abuse!

[Martay]

Hi,
Im posting this up on behalf of a good friend and fellow BCFer as he has no internet acess at the mo.

We both work in the same shop, have done for 2years or so. I wont name it to save an argument later.
Anyways, we are just shop assistants, the lowest of the low really. Above us in store is our supervisor and assistant manager. We havent had a manager since november, she was sacked for theft (iirc 22k-ish!!)
Anyways, I have always got along with everyone, im really good mates with the supervisor and generally get along with the assistant manager. My good friend who im writing this for however seems to be hated by her. No, hated is the wrong word, she is nasty and damn arragant to him at times. She shouts at him, calls him things, slags him off, all of which when it is genuinly not deserved. Couple of points, everyone done alot of overtime over the course of a month to re-fit the shop, me and my friend pulling 50odd hour weeks. I know it might not seem like loads, but we're both employed as part-timers. When the wages come through, my friend noticed he had not been payed anywhere near the amount he had worked. Everyone elses pay was fine. When this was raised with the assistant manager, a full scale row broke out, she was screaming up the shop at him, saying she would withdraw his pay if she felt etc.
Second time, she asked him to run from our store to the next closest, a good 25+ miles each way. Now, he pays for all his own bike, insurance, fuel etc, but said he would go to do a favour. Through no fault of his own he stacked the bike. When she found out, one of her first responses to me was something about work not paying out for damages. I thought this was a bit harsh. I know he couldnt expect them to foot the whole bill, but something would have been nice.
More recently, the supervisor while acting in charge, asked a couple of us lads to do a couple of hours extra. No problem. We pull a few extra hours each, get the job done and get the store looking presentable! Trust me, that doesnt happen often. When the assistant managed came back from holiday, she hit the roof at me for the staff having taken 'so much overtime'. I think it was only 10hours between 3 of us, over 3 days, so its not exactly alot! She says she is not going to pay anyone for the overtime they had done. Normally, the basic rota is printed off and stuff up on the notice board, if we do extra we write it on, then the end of the month the assistant manager emails it off. We had written the extra up on the board. She scribbled out my friends hours, leaving everyone elses untouched.

This isnt isolated 'cases' she is generally nasty to him, moans at him for things that he has/hasnt done, blames him for everyone elses mistakes, TELLS him he has to work tommorow, giving 12hours notice, meaning he either has to drop whatever was planned or risk loosing his job. etc etc. Me and the supervisor have spoken about this and have decided to talk to her about it. In the mean time, he is pretty bummed out about the place, understanably so.
What do you think of this? What should he do? He will see this, il leave it annonomous, he can name himself if he wishes.
Thanks BCF, your better than a parent to talk to
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If this assistant manageress respects you and the supervisor, and it sounds like she does, then the two of you should have a word with her.

I would if one of my juniors was having trouble with one of my seniors, no doubt about it. Especially if I thought he was right and entitled to feel aggrieved.

I suspect bringing an industrial tribunal on the company, which she could feasibly end up doing, would also be a sackable offence and the company have already shown they're not afraid to sack their managers.
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[Skudd]

Diversity and respect for the individual sounds lacking from this woman. Your mate should calculate what he has been short paid and formally request the payment. As for doing trips from one store to another, he should only do so if covered by the company insurance as he is not covered by his own. This needs to be explained to the woman.
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[MinhDinh]

I don't know much about the bike issue, but you guys are certainly being taken for mugs. The hours you work, you should get paid for!

Find a new job elsewhere and leave it.
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[Carl_steveo]

By any chance is the employer Pcworld/Currys/Dixons. Reply by PM if you don't want to say on here. Just so much of this rings true lol.
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[Fairies attack]

At my old job I was treat like that for a long time.

The workshop manager told me that if I was going to take my holiday (Booked 8months in advance) then I would have to come in and pick up my tool box at the weekend (working away) and never come back.
After arguing on the phone to him for a few hours and pretty much asking him why he was treating me like a cunt, and him saying because I was one, despite doing every hour he had given me, and still more on top. I lost my temper told him to fuck off and find someone else who would work 70+hours a week for £2.50 and take that shit he was giving.

Not even half hour had passed by when his 2 bum chums came up to me with the site manager (got on with him well), and asked what I had said to 'Mick', to which I told them the truth, that I wasn't going to be back on monday, which would hold up the whole job since I was the only person qualified enough and small enough to fit through the gap and fit that part. So for the rest of the week I was off to the pub.
They spent roughly 4hours trying to talk me round, and been all pally with me. Then when I said I would stay and finish the job, the manager phoned me to say, that I couldn't have my holiday, but would have that pay put on top of mine if I stayed on site for the extra week.
I agreed, but phoned my dad to ask what he would do. He took it as I had been cocky (was back then) and went to ask a few blokes what was happening and if I had deserved it. They all said it was my fault and I had lied to the boss and gone behind his back (basically made me look bad). Later on it turned out, the the people that my dad knew that the place, where paid to down talk me, and make me look bad to my dad, so he would give me shit, and then the manager could give me more shit.

I spent the next 3years in that place talking and been talked to nobody apart from my work mate, who got the same treatment. If we was given a job to do it would be left on our boxes at the start of the day, if we needed and disc's we had to phone the secretary to bring them out to us since we were banned form going in the office.

Looking back at it now, I am glad the company went down the pan, and I bloody wish I had taken the manager to court for what he did.

Back on topic.
If she is anything like my old boss then I would not really expect anything to get better infact, I would expect it to get worse, since she has had her authority messed with and won't like it. I dare say your mate will be sacked in a few weeks for misconduct or something else similarly shit, by her, because she has got a serious hump.

[keggyhander]

Your Dad's a cunt.

[Fairies attack]

[temeluchus]

My dad beat me. I hate the bastard. Of course I got older, bigger and beat him stupid. Then I joined the army, which made a man out of me.

My dad is now scared of me, I made him the cowering shithead he is today.
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[Fairies attack]

Well I am still scared of my dad, he is 51 and I am 21. He will always be the ruler in any fight.

I have seen plenty of big blokes go down with one punch from him, and had a few as well.
Not something to get used to.

I was in the pub earlier with my neighbour, and he was telling me about the time my street turned into a riot, and my dad was in the middle of it all telling him not to get involved whilst he beat some chavs head into the tarmac.

As bad as he sounds, Slam and Pernig will tell you he an absolutely sound bloke, not hurt a fly unless someone revokes him, then it is best to stand out the way and let the rage subside. I have beaten up people trying to mug me in parks in South London, but never stood up to my dad. He would slaughter me. And he taught me how to take a punch and still get up.

[thegubner]

[hellbound]

Assistant manager or higher up the food chain, someone should be told that she is not right for the job.

[calyx]

I think your mate should man up.
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[GF-91]

Shouldn't have used his bike
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[JP7]

[Clanger]

Maybe there needs to be some kind of mediation meeting, where they can get together in the same room and get this all talked out and get a basic understanding of what it is that is causing the friction / character clash.

A confrontation like this is quite awful, but often massively productive and will clear the air and get things sorted out and into the open.

Two people going in to speak to this other person will likely make things worse. IMO.
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[G]

Are you sure the assistant manager doesn't have a crush on him and is doing that 'opposite' thing .

Anyway seems there are two options; official or unofficial.
Get the ones being treated well to have a quiet word with the supervisor and ask "what's up".
Go through official procedures and contact head office about the behaviour, filing an official grievance.
Either could possibly make things worse.

As for crashing his bike - I would absolutely not expect the company to pay out if I crashed my bike on company time. I would be being very apologetic if it had inconvenienced the company.
Of course it's quite likely, as above, that his insurance doesn't cover it and he shouldn't have offered to do it by bike if he wanted to stay legal.

Whatever happens, I'd strongly suggest he makes a diary of every single issue that's happened - which will be very useful if things do get actually ugly.

[Bike Bunker]

Simple invite her to go on back of you bike....and reah about 70 get your front up so violently she falls off....make sure your friend is following SLAP BANG WALLOP...Dead no fault of either of yours

[crazymotorbik...]

Hey,
Snow rider was never beaten up by my dad!! I'm shocked he would even make an accusation!

When he was 16 he turned into a little sh*t. He was always drunk, possibly doing drugs and gennerally abusive to my mum and Dad. The only time my dad grabbed him is when he squared up to him; Dad never hit him but pinned him agasinst the wall. To my mind he deserved it and the way he treat dad he was lucky he wasnt beaten to a pulp!!

Yes my dad is a guy who will take no sh*t and knows how to handle himself but is certainly no bully. This is the same guy who is paying for Snow Riders engine, keeps a roof over his head rent free and feeding him. Nice way to show your appreciation!!

I'll normally stand up for Mark but sometimes he very out of order.

Cheers,
Shaun.

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