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PostPosted: 19:44 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Top Gear - The Train Effort Reply with quote

I've been falling out with this program for a while now, but the recent episode with the cars on train tracks confirmed for me that this show has to change.

Too staged, too scripted, too comfy. It's almost imitating Last of the Summer Wine. Three older blokes, getting up to 'zany, hair-brained schemes'. It still has some good points, and some shows are very good, but they are getting thin on the ground.

Sorry, I know there are a lot of fans on here....

Rant over......for now!


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PostPosted: 19:46 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still enjoy Top Gear but its gone from a great fun car program with humours antics to nothing more than filler.

It kills an hour when theres sod all else on the TV.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:58 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

out of interest, anyway know why you cant coat the driven wheels in rubber? ie. cut up an old car tyre and stretch it round the driven wheels? would this give any more grip? Confused
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I still enjoy Top Gear but its gone from a great fun car program with humours antics to nothing more than filler.

It kills an hour when theres sod all else on the TV.


I agree
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

normal trains have electricity passed through the wheels in order to operate track circuits which control the signalling system, and in the case of electric trains the power drawn from the overhead line or 3rd rail goes through the motor and then passes through the wheels and back to the track which acts as the negative conductor back to the supply.

For the cars, it may not have been a good idea to put rubber on the wheels as it could cause the wheels to jump out of the track and derail Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems I'm alone in thinking that the train escapades were one of the better things I've seen on Top Gear in a while Confused
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imonster wrote:
It seems I'm alone in thinking that the train escapades were one of the better things I've seen on Top Gear in a while Confused


I'll admit it had moments, but how did you find that entertaining when it was so staged? The fire, Clarkson changing tracks & the subsequent train ahead then 'chase', the smashed caravan at the end, etc., etc., etc.. I found it completely contrived. I don't mind things being staged, most things are on television, but to suggest those events 'just happened' is surely insulting to the audience.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: Top Gear - The Train Effort Reply with quote

Sham wrote:
It's almost imitating Last of the Summer Wine. Three older blokes, getting up to 'zany, hair-brained schemes'.


This is a good point, and the older they get, the more true it will be.

The thing is Clarkson and May sort of accept getting older, but Hammond and his necklace, is just gonna look silly trying to still be young.

I really can't get my head round a grown man wanting to wear a necklace.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think top gear is the bees knees !
So what if its scripted its funny as fuck and they get to mess around in some shit hot cars .

Still the best program on tv for me !
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think top gear is the bees knees !
So what if its scripted its funny as fuck and they get to mess around in some shit hot cars .

Still the best program on tv for me !
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imonster wrote:
It seems I'm alone in thinking that the train escapades were one of the better things I've seen on Top Gear in a while Confused

You are, it was in fact the most w*nk thing ever to be on British TV as voted by readers of The Radio Times. Celebrity Come Dine With Me only came third.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 21 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on they've been staging this sort of thing for years. The cow on the roof of the Camaro in America. Sleeping-in-a-random-place and finding oneself at the bottom of a massive dam in the morning. Setting a lorry on fire. Reverse-parking a caravan and destroying "someone else's" awning. The train was no more staged than half the stuff they've done in the past half-decade. Get over it and enjoy the show despite the fact that the Stig has probably actually jumped over a shark in an Ariel Atom, or stop watching.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukamon wrote:
out of interest, anyway know why you cant coat the driven wheels in rubber? ie. cut up an old car tyre and stretch it round the driven wheels? would this give any more grip? Confused


Yes I do.

If you use a car on rails with rubber wheels when the cars brakes you wear flat spots in the rubber then when you start moving again you end up with massive vibrations through the wheels.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow rider wrote:
J4mes wrote:
normal trains have electricity passed through the wheels in order to operate track circuits which control the signalling system, and in the case of electric trains the power drawn from the overhead line or 3rd rail goes through the motor and then passes through the wheels and back to the track which acts as the negative conductor back to the supply.

For the cars, it may not have been a good idea to put rubber on the wheels as it could cause the wheels to jump out of the track and derail Thumbs Up


Bullshit.

Trains have tyres. Hence why the tracks need to be ground down again every so often to prevent damage to them.

I worked with a bloke who ran trains as a hobby, the tyres last on average 10k then need to be changed which costs £2k.
Read up on you facts before sprouting shit.


Traditional trains do use 'tyres' but as they are made of steel, I would suggest that j4mes' statement still holds true. May I now point you to your last comment. (And I do like the idea of 'sprouting shit' over spouting shit!)
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PostPosted: 03:50 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its contrived and mostly predictable
but my wife likes it and thinks its funny, she has no interest in cars and thinks HP means hire purchase Embarassed

my youngest son watches the old dave episodes all the time
he is interested in cars (but more into bikes)
me I just watch it for a mixture of the funny bits, the car reports the do
and the feature episodes or the specials they do

put it this way its the only thing the licence fee I have to pay to the BBC
that I feel was well spent as it gives me something to watch on another wise boring Sunday night
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PostPosted: 05:27 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow rider wrote:
J4mes wrote:
normal trains have electricity passed through the wheels in order to operate track circuits which control the signalling system, and in the case of electric trains the power drawn from the overhead line or 3rd rail goes through the motor and then passes through the wheels and back to the track which acts as the negative conductor back to the supply.

For the cars, it may not have been a good idea to put rubber on the wheels as it could cause the wheels to jump out of the track and derail Thumbs Up


Bullshit.

Trains have tyres. Hence why the tracks need to be ground down again every so often to prevent damage to them.

I worked with a bloke who ran trains as a hobby, the tyres last on average 10k then need to be changed which costs £2k.
Read up on you facts before sprouting shit.


Rubbish. Tracks get CHANGED when they are worn out. They don't grind them at all in place they fit new ones and send the old ones off to be melted down and made into bean cans.

Grinding has a very slow rate of removal - and you should know that having (claimed to have) worked in fabrication. Imagine the amount of time it would take to grind a single 90-foot length of rail and there are tens of thousands of miles of it in the network.

J4mes is right on with his track circuit info and Sham too with the fact that rolling stock has steel tyres, which of course it does.

There have been designs of rubber-tyred locomotives - I built a motor for such a trial by a company called Bryway back in the late 80's. There aren't any in service that I know of though that run on steel tracks.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow rider wrote:


I worked with a bloke


I'm a High Voltage Distribution Engineer on the railway.

But what do I know, you worked with a bloke who had a lego train set in his loft. Liar
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snow rider wrote:
Trains have tyres.

Yes good for noticing that the main part of the wheel is steel. You get a gold star for observation. But they do have wheels.

I have spent many a time working on Loco's with my mate to know they have tyres.

If not why grind the tracks back to the prefect profile?

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Go on BCF sprout shit about stuff you don't know about.

I have driven a fair few loco's. And even had the pleasure of driving my mates rare swedish loco down the local track the night it was delivered, before been stripped down a is currently in a state of full
restore.

I'll upload the video's off the train I drove (not in the video I was filming Kye was driving) and then the Swdish one.



The tyre is made of steel, maybe you missed that point of my post whilst you were 'sprouting' again.....
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, I'm AT WORK and can't view youtube. I have no doubt that you played on a mates train, good for you.

But the fact still stands that trains on the UK network don't have rubber tyres. Seriously. Rolling Eyes But you know this anyway, you dirty little troll you Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 22 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Warped at flounced? Alas.
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