VIN Number help!!!

[penis020]

I have just brought a bike from ebay, im having a few issues

When i brought it, the seller said that the V5 was with this, the bike came with a spare frame.

On the V5, the VIN number is actually only 8 digits long, on looking on the bike, the only number i can find is on the right hand of the steering collum and says

APRILIA FM 02954397

this is the only number on the frame

On the spare Frame, it has engraved on the right hand steering collum

S2S0Z EST 010M 02164128

on the sticker also on the right hand side of the frame, it also has no VIN listed, it just states

Aprilia SPA
VIA G GALILEI 1
13.5 KW
30033
NOA E Italy
EU-DGM


Does anyone have any idea why the frame and the bike has no 17 digit VIN, and if this was normal for the 1991 futura 125?

the reason why i am asking is because the V5 that came with the bike, actually has the VIN listed as the frame number for the 'FRAME' that came with the bike,

not the frame that the bike is actually using!! so a nightmare, as i need the VIN to find out the bikes details from aprilia. I know i can register the bike without this as the DVLA will appoint a Q plated registration, but i dont want to lose the bikes history. I know there must be a way to get the VIN, Aprilia italy, whom i have spoken to, say the VIN is in the place i am looking, but the 8 digit number i believe is the engine number??

Also does anyone know of an AF1 1991 workshop manual in pdf format to download or a cheap one to buy?

thanks

[Kickstart]

Hi

Quite normal. Both my 1991 Futura and my 1993 RS125 have 8 digit chassis numbers.

The Futura is only less than 150 different from number on your Futura.

All the best

Keith
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[penis020]

i thought this may have been the case from what i have read, so is there no VIN for this bike at all??

because aprilia seem addament that this is the only way they can identify the bike

thanks

[Kickstart]

Hi

The 8 digit number is the chassis number / VIN number, just not a to the standard format that is now used.

All the best

Keith
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[penis020]

i rang aprilia and they dont recognise this, nor do any of the VIN number checkers etc

do you think that this is just because the person i am speaking to is not aware of this as the bikes are so old?

i just need to register the bike but want it to be done on its original reg etc,

any more info you have would be appreciated

[Kickstart]

Hi

Probably down to the age. Aprilia UK have moved around a lot since 1991 and probably nobody there who worked there when the Futura was new (maybe the MD).

Does your bike have twin round lights? Does it have 40mm forks. Does it have a front mudguard with a metal strip on each side leading from the forks to the mudguard?

By the way, part number for the oil tank is 82 30 860.

All the best

Keith
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[penis020]

i have the rectangle single light at the front, no metal strip and my forks are bigger than that

the bike i have is the same as this picture,

it has a black mudguard, not sure if this is an aftermarket part. I also have a fairing kit that came with the bike which is the same as in your picture with the twin headlight

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/aprilia_af1_125_futura_1991.php


I tried aprilia uk and aprilia italy

its a nightmare trying to find out any info on this bike, dvla dont help either, any ideas on how i cant get the reg details?

[Kickstart]

Hi

With a single headlight it will be an import so quite possibly never UK registered.

The one in the pic is an early Futura. Has the front mudguard with the metal strips and the 38mm forks. Later Futuras (including all UK ones) had the 40mm forks and a larger plastic front mudguard. You can see the difference with this piccy of a UK one

All the best

Keith
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[penis020]

In fact just had a look at the info that the seller gave me, and he listed the bike on ebay as a futura sports pro... looking at the google images and it is actually the same nike as the AF1 Sports pro 1992 model

so im thinking that the log book i have for the spare frame is the af1 futura 1991 and the actual bike i have is the 1992 sports pro

does the info regarding the parts still apply to the bike now its a sports pro??

thanks

[Kickstart]

Hi

Pretty much. Sport Pro is just a limited edition later shape Futura (think the Sport Pro had a smaller carb in some markets). Sport Pro was painted in yellow black and white.

The later Futuras did home some changes. Forks as already mentioned. Seat units were changed (they lost the silver bits under the seat, and the seat plastics went further forward). Also the frame changed slightly around where the bracing bar goes across the frame.

All the best

Keith
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[penis020]

thanks, sorry to keep picking your brain,

if this bike has never been registered, will i be able to register this as a 1992 sports pro? as aprilia cant give me any details based on this frame number? they say this 8 digit number is the engine number and still insist it will be the Z 17 digit vin

basically I need proof to the DVLA that this bike is a 1992 aprilia, or they will Q plate it

[Kickstart]

Hi

Various places can supply a proof of age for a bike which is accepted by the DVLA. One who might be able to do it for an Italian bike is North Leicester Motorcycles.

Once you have the proof of age you need an MOT for the bike (on the chassis number, NOT the registration number), insurance on the chassis number (which you can normally only get for a limited time) and then take all the docs to the DVLA, pay the first registration fee and the first years road tax and wait for the docs. They might want to inspect the bike (I have registered 3 bikes and a car and on one of those they have wanted to inspect it).

There is a more complicated system for newer bikes but think yours is old enough to go through the older system.

All the best

Keith
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