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DIYdemon
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: 125 or not ? that is the question Reply with quote

ive been told by a couple of guys on here to do my bike test then just get a bigger bike to save money , im 17 btw.

as much as i would love to do that i just think having a small bike to begin with is the right thing to do , also what are your thoughts on restriction kits for 33bhp ?. mainly because if i do by a bigger bike when passed my test i what to be able to use a 675 straight away , good idea ?




p.S not sure if this is in the right topic list but its a bout bikes so don't matter nevertheless
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do what feels right for you and what you're comfortable with mate.

I'm still in my car but will be selling it in a month or so, taking my CBT, buying a YBR 125 to get used to riding for a few months then taking my test (not DAS).

I'll then keep the 125 for a while, and move up to a bigger bike when I feel ready - if that's before the two years are up, so be it - I'll just have to do another test.

Personally I'd rather start with a 125 to get my experience up, which is why I'll go down that route.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go a 125 at 18, rode that for a few months, had a few crashes and then got another bike and did my test, definitely one of the best things I ever did.

In terms of getting a 675, by all means do it.. the insurance will be an absolute fortune and you may or may not slide it down the road.

I went from 125 > GS500, perfect for me, ample power without constant triple digit temptation.
Went to a 600, peaky power and more expensive to run.
Then borrowed a GSXR1000, waqs pretty nippy.

Im now on a GSXR750, I've not dropped a bike really since Dec 09 on my GS500, but that was down to a car Laughing Think I make more of a effort to keep the plastic bikes upright Laughing

Go with what you feel, if you have money then go for the 675 that you want.
Personally i'd say pass your test on a 125, ride around and start saving for a bigger naked 600cc bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
I go a 125 at 18, rode that for a few months, had a few crashes and then got another bike and did my test, definitely one of the best things I ever did.

In terms of getting a 675, by all means do it.. the insurance will be an absolute fortune and you may or may not slide it down the road.

I went from 125 > GS500, perfect for me, ample power without constant triple digit temptation.
Went to a 600, peaky power and more expensive to run.
Then borrowed a GSXR1000, waqs pretty nippy.

Im now on a GSXR750, I've not dropped a bike really since Dec 09 on my GS500, but that was down to a car Laughing Think I make more of a effort to keep the plastic bikes upright Laughing

Go with what you feel, if you have money then go for the 675 that you want.
Personally i'd say pass your test on a 125, ride around and start saving for a bigger naked 600cc bike Thumbs Up


Im with paddy on this one.... save your money, pass your tests and buy a naked bike... i know for a fact a bandit 600 will easily do triple figures 2 up and not rape you on the insurance Wink
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 125 first so you can get a bit of practice then take your test.

Any losses you occur will more than likely be way less than the amount you'd have to spend on bike hire etc for the tests if you didn't get a 125.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
I go a 125 at 18, rode that for a few months, had a few crashes and then got another bike and did my test, definitely one of the best things I ever did.

In terms of getting a 675, by all means do it.. the insurance will be an absolute fortune and you may or may not slide it down the road.

I went from 125 > GS500, perfect for me, ample power without constant triple digit temptation.
Went to a 600, peaky power and more expensive to run.
Then borrowed a GSXR1000, waqs pretty nippy.

Im now on a GSXR750, I've not dropped a bike really since Dec 09 on my GS500, but that was down to a car Laughing Think I make more of a effort to keep the plastic bikes upright Laughing

Go with what you feel, if you have money then go for the 675 that you want.
Personally i'd say pass your test on a 125, ride around and start saving for a bigger naked 600cc bike Thumbs Up







i see were your coming from but with the insurance of a 675 , what is it compared to a car ?? thats one reason im getting a bike since a 100 quid car is like 2500 grand to insure -_-

how much would a 675 be to insure for a 17 ur old ?? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id say at 17 you might be better getting some experience on a 125 as you have plenty of time to upgrade. Plus- you probably have very little road experience so may be better learning some roadcraft on a smaller machine. Plenty of fun to be had on a 125 and all you really need at that age I think - couple of years under your belt then look at upgrading to a big bike.
I wouldnt have trusted myself at 17 on something 600 etc, even restricted - I was a teararse in a car and bad enough on my 50! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
Id say at 17 you might be better getting some experience on a 125 as you have plenty of time to upgrade. Plus- you probably have very little road experience so may be better learning some roadcraft on a smaller machine. Plenty of fun to be had on a 125 and all you really need at that age I think - couple of years under your belt then look at upgrading to a big bike.
I wouldnt have trusted myself at 17 on something 600 etc, even restricted - I was a teararse in a car and bad enough on my 50! Thumbs Up


^This. It's not so much the power or performance of the bike IMHO, you'll either have a well developed self-preservation gland attached to your throttle hand or not, it's the roadcraft that you're lacking. I've been driving a car for 25 years and still get it occasionally wrong on a bike. Put the power and the inexperience together and you're asking for trouble. Smaller bike until you learn the road stuff, do your test, world's your biking oyster.

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PostPosted: 19:32 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIYdemon wrote:
i see were your coming from but with the insurance of a 675 , what is it compared to a car ?? thats one reason im getting a bike since a 100 quid car is like 2500 grand to insure -_-

how much would a 675 be to insure for a 17 ur old ?? Thumbs Up


Change to a different car Laughing

Honestly my cars have been an old M reg Astra 1.4 - £1500, Rover 75 £800 ish, Toyota Supra - £1500, BMW 328i - £1300.

Im now on a 1.3 Starlet non turbo.. £1000 Laughing
A 1.4 lupo costs £600 a year..


Bike wise.. if its a Daytona 675.. at 17, you are asking close to £1500.
When I was 18 doing quotes for bikes I remember the SV650 was around £160, CB400SF was £150 and Ninja 250 was £800.

Its all about the plastic.

Do a quick quote, say you are 17 etc... and have a look, put it as 33hp.. cry at the outcome. Laughing

To insure a 750 for me, albeit my bad insurance past i'm looking at £700, and for the same bike just 1000cc im looking double that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

well for me to insure a 675, with 2 odd years no claims etc etc. its like 3.5K to insure a daytona

id look at other bikes. my RVF costs £600 and something to insure. car costs £1600 Sad
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the major factors in me getting a bike was because at 17 a car would have been far too much money to run and insure.

I went straight from a ped, did my A2 and then got myself a 750. The insurance TPFT was £350 when I was 17 and it's now dropped to £295. I think it mostly depends on the bike really, something like an R6 would cost a fortune but get something a bit obscure and not that sporty the insurance isn't as much as you'd think.

I'd definitely go straight for doing your test, hire out a 125 by all means to get practice on, that's what I did.

But hey, if you think you'll feel more comfortable getting some time learning road craft on a smaller machine then go for it.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: 125 or not ? that is the question Reply with quote

DIYdemon wrote:
ive been told by a couple of guys on here to do my bike test then just get a bigger bike to save money , im 17 btw.



What we actually said to you was don't waste money getting an expensive 125 then chucking more cash at it to tart it up! Laughing

By all means get a 125 to learn on, but see it as a temporary measure or a means to an end if you prefer.

No point in making loads of expensive mods to get an extra 5mph out of it or to make it look nicer. Just get your test done then you can have all the power you want - well after your 2 years you can anyway! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a cheap 125, something dropable. If you like it, pass your test and move up a few hundred CC's. If you don't like it, it's better than the bus. Thumbs Up

Edit: Didn't realise that you already had a ped.


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PostPosted: 21:58 - 26 Jul 2011    Post subject: Re: 125 or not ? that is the question Reply with quote

yambabe wrote:
DIYdemon wrote:
ive been told by a couple of guys on here to do my bike test then just get a bigger bike to save money , im 17 btw.



What we actually said to you was don't waste money getting an expensive 125 then chucking more cash at it to tart it up! Laughing

By all means get a 125 to learn on, but see it as a temporary measure or a means to an end if you prefer.

No point in making loads of expensive mods to get an extra 5mph out of it or to make it look nicer. Just get your test done then you can have all the power you want - well after your 2 years you can anyway! Thumbs Up



ok thx makes more sense now =D
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