Possible engine trouble?

[california_rookie]

I've owned my new '04 GSX-R 600 for about a month now (750 miles on the odo.) and the first thing I remember thinking upon taking delivery of it was 'geez this thing smells like my dad's old Lincoln'. I didn't think a thing of it until a fellow 600 owner (YamR6) was standing by when I was about to start it so I told him to take a whiff. Maybe it was just because I mentioned it before hand but he thought it was a bit ripe smelling as well. At this point I'm a little frustrated because all the damned things are long sold out at the dealership and I've not even seen one around here for a week or two so I can't just go fire one up for a comparison. As a side note there is absolutely no smoke coming from my pipe at any time, so I've had no real cause for worry as of yet. Also, not many people 'round here have bikes and no one in my family has owned one in recent years so I have no prior knowledge as to what they're supposed to smell like. I just chalked it up to a lack of a catalytic converter.

Any fellow owners noticed that not-so-fresh smell coming from their pipe? I'm going to continue investigating this phenomenon regarless of what comments you might have, so feel free to speak your mind. I just want some honest opinions.

Thanks in advance,
Mike
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[Komp]

Yep you might awell sell it it's ruined lol na i havn't got a clue mate maybe it's that new smell run it in more although you already have maybe the oil you use cos i have this strawberry cent on my old bike..
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Have you done the full oil change on it?

I think they say to do a full change after about circa 500 miles , because the mineral oil they may have used to aid run-in, will need to be changed. Put fully synthetic oil in.

My bike smells a bit like the engine oil it uses, with an ever so slight whiff of fuel. Mine has done like 28, 000 mile.

Apart form that i cant think of anything else at the moment.

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

[rizo-sri200]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats what i thought
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[carvell]

Eejits.

YamR6 as in his mate owns a Yamaha R6!
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Silly us,

[Davo]

I thought that.

If its that new can you not take it back to the dealer to get them to have a look at it, any repair work should be covered by the manufacturers warranty?

[rizo-sri200]

Doh
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[california_rookie]

[california_rookie]

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Ask them if they have put in the lower quality oil (from the factory) to aid run-in, and when exactly you should change it.

I would not expect it to burn any oil, but it may be ok for that bike. I cannot say for sure.

Mine doesnt burn a drop, and its got 28,000 miles. But its a completely different bike, well, apart form the fact that its a sports bike.

Maybe you can get some advice/ask some Qs from another new GSX-R600 owner. Scratchey has a new GSX-R600, same as yours... only bought a few weeks ago.

[california_rookie]

[Scratchy]

Yes, mine smells a little, nothing to write home about though. I have just considered it to be a 'new bike' smell. Still only 488 miles on it so far and it hasn't had it's first service yet.
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[mr.z]

According to my mate mine smells like a chip shop And its 20years old with 30k on the clock!

Maybe its the gasket material smelling weird? or perhaps the exhaust sealant? maybe burning off a little of the "runing in" oil?

Make sure you run the bike in properly (keep it varyed but dont thrash it to the red line straight away ), allways make sure its given plenty of time to warm up properly too..

Its really easy to get paranoid about your bike, you can see hear and smell things before they go wrong, but you also imagine things, like the cylinders on my bike stick out past the tank, so you can hear the tappets clicking away, if they get louder then i check the oil (the less their is the louder it clicks!) but quite often its my imagination...

If you want a stinky bike try spraying it with WD40 (duck oil) it will keep it clean through winter but gawd does it smell, and smokes a little when its burning off hot parts of the bike which freaks me out still when i forget it was cleaned the night before
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

[veeeffarr]

Chuck a spud in the tank and see if you start spitting out french fries! Get some tomato ketchup gearbox oil, stat!

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

[california_rookie]

You bunch of silly bastards.

From what I gather it's nothing I should really worry about at the moment. So, my next course of action is to notify the dealer of the fact that it smells a bit and is burning off some oil. That way it'll have been documented. The first service is coming up at 1,000 miles and I've been pretty easy on it. Never been over 10k on the tachometer. Though, I did kind give it 75% throttle for the benefit of an M3 owner who apparently wanted to test his car's mettle. Kinda nice to not even have to worry the bike and still be sitting right 'long side of 'im.

I appreciate all the input. You've definitely put my mind at ease, regardless whether the thing catches fire when I start it in the morning.

Is there any reason why I shouldn't be warming it up to near operation temperature while it's on the side stand? I usually get it up to 20 degrees fahrenheit below the normal operating temp. before I get on it.

Thanks again,
Mike
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[mr.z]

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

To warm up mine.

Start it, get off (i start the bike level) and leathered up, and anything else that randomly needs doing... Probably taking 2 or 3 minutes, of the bike idling on the stand. It wont matter if you let it warm up for longer.

Then ride off, and ride around using low revs (say 5,6k max), incidently when you are riding it works very well, because the gear box/clutch also gets a chance to warm up. Ride around using low revs for about 10-15 minutes, then do what you will .

In cold weather, wait until you can push off the choke before riding off. P.s. your bike probably wont have a choke. In really cold weather allow more time for warming up (ie on the side stand).

The key is not to think that after a few minutes warming up on the stand it wil be ok to be thrashed.

So 2-5 mins on stand, 10-15 minutes low rpm riding around, then thrash away all you want.

Make sure you keep an eye on the oil level, and service/maintain the bike regularly.

[california_rookie]

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Dont worry about spinning the engine on "kill switch" before you start her up properly. Its not worth it, the engine will spin the oil around by its self within a matter of seconds anyway, and indeed when the starter is pressed. Plus if you start it normally the oil pump will be pumping straight away. If you spin it on kill switch you will not be getting oil to the valve-train (top end) anyway...So kinda pointless. . .

If you are worried about the clutch and stuff, this is exactly what i do:

Jump on bike, keeping it level with the ground, pull in the clutch and start her. I keep the clutch in for about 10 seconds with the engine on. Im still on my bike and its level for these 10 seconds. Then jump off, the oil pump will have started and the top end will have circulating oil in it by the time the 10 seconds are over.

With the bike level, the oil will be equally distributed around the sump of the engine, meaning when you start it up there are no points (mostly right hand side crankshaft bearings) that dont have any oil on them. If the bike is on the stand, all the oil will be shifted to the left side, meaning some parts will not have oil around them for those crucial few seconds before the oil pump has pumped the oil all the way around the engine. All will change after a few seconds untill then oil is pumped round, but untill then the right side will have a lack of oil.

Having the clutch in will allow the oil to move freely between the cluch plates, aiding the non-sticking of the clutch.




Just remember, for ultimate warm up.

1. Jump on bike so its off the side stand, and level with the ground.

2. Pull in clutch and start the bike.

3. Wait around 10 seconds, with the clutch in and the bike upright.

4. Jump off and wait a few minutes to get the engine warmed up.

5. Ride off, keeping the revs low below,say about 6, 000

6. After 10-15 mins ride how you like

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