Manual camchain tensioners

[T0MMY]

I think I need a new camchain tensioner for my ZX6R as it's got a little rattly of late. The oe automatic ones are pretty expensive but I think I can get a manual one for a bit less and I hear they're a better option anyway; is that true?

Also, does anyone else make them apart from Ape? They don't seem to be easy to find, even on Ebay there's only one listing...
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ZX6R + CBR600RR

[whitedevil]

have a look here
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Debben Performance.
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[T0MMY]

Thanks chaps, I'll have a look at those links
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[sickpup]

I suppose it comes down to can you actually set one up so it doesn't kill a main bearing or jump a tooth and keep up with adjusting it?

[jjdugen]

Make your own. Drill and tap a thread in the CCT body and use a bolt/locking nut, cost... pence. Turn the bolt BY HAND until resistance is felt then lock it up. No more failures.

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[T0MMY]

[sickpup]

[T0MMY]

Is that necessary? I thought you just did it up 'til tension is felt then backed it out a bit...or is that the dangerously lazy way?
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[dextersaurus]

i've got an APE one sitting on my shelf that may fit, gimme some measurements and i'll check for you.

Dunc

[jjdugen]

Hi Ditto. Do you work for Kawasaki/Honda/ Yamaha by any chance?
You stand far more chance of failure by repeating the mistake of fitting the piss poor engineering that goes into the average auto cam chain adjuster.

[T0MMY]

[dextersaurus]

[tatters]

I,ve got a bran new boxed kawasakai one you can have for £10, not sure what model of ZX6 its from so do you know the part number of your one?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I just adjusted mine when it started ticking until it was quiet. Engine never blew up.
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[T0MMY]

It's for a 1999 G2 model, I think the part number for an OE automagic one is 12048-1143 but I think many are interchangeable, certainly between the F and G models.
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[jjdugen]

A bodge is putting plastic metal on a holed sump. An engineering solution is making a crap (and expensive) part work properly.
Back in the '60's, ALL camchain tensioners were manual, no failures. Nowadays, every other post is about 'a funny rattling noise'. My CCT modifications will outlast the bike, stock CCT's will fail every 20000 miles, usually sooner if its a Firestorm.

[sickpup]

[jjdugen]

Most small Hondas were in the 10-12000 rpm range. Most Honda racers went anywhere from 12-18000 rpm.
High rpm isnt the problem. CCT's are at their most vulnerable at low engine speed when the pulses of valve spring opening are at low frequency. This is what 'jars' the tensioner, causing the movable part to back off if/when the tensioning spring fails.
So, why would tapping and threading the original CCT body be a 'bodge' when you will happily pay for exactly the same thing as long as its anodised in pretty colour?

[sickpup]