Restore a rolling 30 year-old exemption to VED

[ZBD]

dont waste it put your name down.


Restore a rolling 30 year-old exemption to VED, for classic vehicles
Responsible department: Her Majesty's Treasury

Re-introduce a 30 year rolling vehicle excise duty exemption scheme, for classic vehicles. For too long now the tax exemption of classic cars has been frozen, to only apply to those manufactured before 1973. History did not simply stop in 1972. These are not cars which are driven everyday but rather on sunny weekends, to attend enthusiast shows etc.. It is vitally important that we help to preserve this important part of British motoring history.

https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/183
____________________
Alcohol is the answer, it's the question I forgot ....

[virus]

Giz a working link then.

Cheers
John
____________________
own: 81 xs1100g...
owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Signed (and fixed the link)

All the best

Keith
____________________
Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

[virus]

cheers keith, signed, I doubt it'l have much use but with my rat being 31 this year I wont turn down the chance to save money

Cheers
John
____________________
own: 81 xs1100g...
owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

[.Chris.]

I've signed it, but I'm not holding my breath. Over the past decade there have been several large petitions supported by the classic car press to try to get some kind of return to a rolling exemption date, but they fell on predictably deaf ears. The usual nonsense about enviornmental reasons, etc, were used as an excuse.

I also remember a piece by Lord Montagu of Beaulieu several years ago arguing that a rolling tax exemption was unaffordable as there are so many more post-'73 classic vehicles about. Not sure how true that is though, to be honest. Plenty of 70s and 80s cars are extremely rare compared to a lot of 50s and 60s ones.

Before the last general election the conservative party were making noises to the effect that they'd be sympathetic to the idea of re-instating a rolling exemption at 30 or 35 years, but nothing's come of that yet and to be honest in the current climate I'm not expecting it to.
____________________
Chris
1985 Kawasaki Z550F

[Rogerborg]

Not worth my time even clicking on it. Find a sympathetic back-bencher, or lobby Mike "The Bike" Penning directly.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[Mac_Black]

Sig 2,959, My CD's 30 this year!

[Ted]

There is also one going for tax exemption over 25 years...

https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2622

No harm in signing both I guess!

[blurredman]

The origional one was 25 years I believe ?
____________________
CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Ted]

Yeah I think it was... they would loose too much money if they ever did it, but worth trying anyway.

[Kickstart]

[Ted]

I'm guessing it would have been in 1999 that it stopped rolling, to make the fixed date 1974...

Doesn't seem that long ago, but was before I was on the road!

If you think how many modern cars qualify for £60, £30 or free VED these days, it probably won't cost much to abolish VED.

Although then half of Wales would become unemployed!

[Kickstart]

[blurredman]

It's a crying shame when a classic car that does equal emission readouts then a standard modern car these days has to pay more tax simply because it is post 1973 and before 2001.

Infact, I think that the whole system of having an older car from 1 to 1500cc paying the same amount of tax is pretty much a rip off. My old car was 850cc, and I used that in order to save money, but I had to pay all £126 (at the time) road tax when someone with a modern 1.4l didn't have to pay any extra.

Quite ludicrous, and lucrative.
____________________
CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Argument against that would be what emissions are you interested in? Pretty much anything pre 1990 would have massively higher emissions of carbon monoxide and various oxides of nitrogen than anything post 1992, let alone anything new and it is these that are directly harmful to people.

Few years ago TfL had a page listing the various emissions of different classes of vehicle. From memory a 50cc 2 stroke scooter was worse than a bus .

Whether the total amounts from a small number of old vehicles are of any relevance is another question.

All the best

Keith
____________________
Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing

[blurredman]

I simply don't care about emissions overly.
____________________
CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[Kickstart]

[Rogerborg]

[Kickstart]