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 MarkJ World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 10:47 - 19 Aug 2011 Post subject: Bike mag's "Reclaim our tracks" trackdays |
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https://www.clubmsv.co.uk/bike-home/exclusive-events/bike-magazine-trackdays.aspx
There seemed to be a few disgruntled mumblings in the £25 Donington day thread about the possibility it would be a road bikes only day.
I'd noticed bike mag has been doing them and couldn't really understand their angle. To my mind they're saying there's a problem with trackdays which simply does not exist. Vans are banned from the paddock and trailers are "encouraged" against. Bringing your bike on a trailer/in a van is surely a logical step in case you bin it, as the AA might not take you home from the track. I was at Rockingham last week and some bloke on a Triumph had his engine eat itself, but he'd ridden there from Liverpool. I trailered him to the nearest roundabout as he was worried he wouldn't get the AA to pick him up from Rockingham. Problem averted if he had a van/trailer.
Also, supposedly it's a friendlier atmosphere on a road bike only trackday? I can't say I've ever been to a trackday where it's been anything other than "jolly". |
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 MarJay But it's British!

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 Posted: 11:00 - 19 Aug 2011 Post subject: Re: Bike mag's "Reclaim our tracks" trackdays |
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| MarkJ wrote: | https://www.clubmsv.co.uk/bike-home/exclusive-events/bike-magazine-trackdays.aspx
There seemed to be a few disgruntled mumblings in the £25 Donington day thread about the possibility it would be a road bikes only day.
I'd noticed bike mag has been doing them and couldn't really understand their angle. To my mind they're saying there's a problem with trackdays which simply does not exist. Vans are banned from the paddock and trailers are "encouraged" against. Bringing your bike on a trailer/in a van is surely a logical step in case you bin it, as the AA might not take you home from the track. I was at Rockingham last week and some bloke on a Triumph had his engine eat itself, but he'd ridden there from Liverpool. I trailered him to the nearest roundabout as he was worried he wouldn't get the AA to pick him up from Rockingham. Problem averted if he had a van/trailer.
Also, supposedly it's a friendlier atmosphere on a road bike only trackday? I can't say I've ever been to a trackday where it's been anything other than "jolly". |
100% agree with this.
Can't understand their angle. However, I did go to a Cadwell day this year where G's motorhome was the shabbiest looking vehicle in the paddock, and probably the least luxurious. Its because it was a day with Neil Hodgson as a guest instructor, and every person there was pretty much a professional trackday attendee with recent model trackbikes with no race numbers, huge motorhomes, trophy wives and ridiculous tribal tattoos. They all reeked of new money. They weren't exactly all polite on track either from what I could tell, but that is pretty much the exception rather than the norm at trackdays I've been on recently. I can't understand BiKE mag and their angle on that at all. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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I'd consider attending a ROT day.
There is a certain 'understanding' between riders that turn up on the bike and don't have the luxury of a van to get home - that's what I've experienced anyway.
When I went to Cadwell there were only a few of us that turned up on bikes and we tended to congregate together as it happened. We took the whole thing as a laugh - not too serious and both decided to skip the last session as we were knackered and had a long journey home.
The fast boys with race and/or track bikes did seem to have less 'fun' what with all the posing.. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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There was a certain charm to rocking up on your road bike and then riding home - zero hassle, none of this loading and unloading van, paddock stands, tyre warmers and all associated paraphernalia.
But of course, it's a royal pain in the balls if you bin it. And tyre warmers and wets are nice.
I sit on the fence. It's my roadbike, but I put track fairings on it. Unless its Brands Hatch (where I know someone I could dump a binned bike with!) then I'm definitely vanning it. Had that hassle before when the guy on the roadbike broke his elbow and we had to deposit him at the pub up the road and lie to the RAC - can't be doing with the faff.
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 Posted: 08:54 - 21 Aug 2011 Post subject: Re: Bike mag's "Reclaim our tracks" trackdays |
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| MarJay wrote: | However, I did go to a Cadwell day this year where G's motorhome was the shabbiest looking vehicle in the paddock, and probably the least luxurious. Its because it was a day with Neil Hodgson as a guest instructor, and every person there was pretty much a professional trackday attendee with recent model trackbikes with no race numbers, huge motorhomes, trophy wives and ridiculous tribal tattoos. They all reeked of new money. They weren't exactly all polite on track either from what I could tell, but that is pretty much the exception rather than the norm at trackdays I've been on recently. I can't understand BiKE mag and their angle on that at all. |
This.
I was at Mallory yesterday (not riding, just went with my brother for something to do) and there were a lot of people like this. The friendliest blokes in the paddock were the ones with pretty much standard road bikes, or lightly modded track bikes that arrived with them in the back of horseboxes.
My first trackday was at Anglesey, and i was in novice group. My bike was the only standard road bike in the whole group. During the briefing in the morning all i could hear were people in novice group saying how they couldnt get in to the fast group because it was sold out so they were in novice.
So basically the novice group was in essence another fast group, with me stuck in the middle. Wouldnt have been so bad if the faster riders had given me a bit of space, but i was getting buzzed all day and to be honest felt out of my depth.
I can see what Bike are trying to achieve with these trackdays, for me (as someone who isnt very fast and not really that serious about chasing laptimes ) it would probabley be a good day. But i can see the negatives too. |
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Its simple really.
If this kind of track day isn't for you, don't go.
If it is your kinda thing, booked it up.
If you want to turn up to a track day with tryre warmers, a van/trailer, book a normal track day.
tbh, I can't wait to use warmers, saves me 3-4 laps of nervy riding.
I can't wait to use the trailer, it saves me carrying a whole rucksack full of bits n bobs to a trackday.
I am looking forward to taking a trailer/trackbike so I can give it my all, and not been too worried about riding the bike home at the end of the day. Stick it on the trailer, sit on a comfy seat and plod home.
But I have also ridden my bike to a trackday. tbh, its a pain in the arse.
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 Gazdaman I did a trackday!!!

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I've done a number of trackdays where I rode there and back. Even did one on my own, weather was nice so hopped on the bike to the local track and payed on the door.
Maybe if they had a tie up with a van hire company to offer cheap one way drops offs if you stack it Give a little security!
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 Posted: 20:46 - 24 Aug 2011 Post subject: Re: Bike mag's "Reclaim our tracks" trackdays |
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Hmmm, could be slightly tempted by the Oulton one actually (as I'd like to be there for another event anyway). Got a trailer that will fit in the van, so bike and trailer in van, get them out, outside the gates, drive in . |
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I have to say on the other end of the scale, the track day I did at Donington was a little more mixed.
Me and Bishbash were sharing a paddock with 5 or 6 other guys (most were in the advanced group with one in inters) and they were really nice. Up for having a chat, giving tips and weren't stuck up at all!
It seemed most people had vanned/ trailered there with only a few; perhaps maybe 10 who had actually ridden there. Even in novice there were some meaty looking track bikes.
For me I would have just as much fun if I rode down on the thing or if I trailered it down. I found having the fact I did have to ride home encouraged me not to push it to far as well! ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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I can see the logic as it should tempt the more nervous of riders but not allowing vans and tyres warmers is a bit wrong.
been to a few TDs were peeps have dumped there bikes and had no way of getting home, I remember someone at mallory needing a lift to Nottingham. Not sure if the guy made it home that night but I know it would certainly put people off if they had to fork out an extra £400-500 to get carted home.
Tyre warmers are more for safety and prolong tyre life.
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only done the one track day on my little bandit, but it was quite rewarding to turn up on the bike, having ridden for 3 or so hours to get there the previous night.
tyre warmers though? trackdays arent competetive, so just take it easy for a couple of laps and you wont have a problem
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 187 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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