Query on restricted bikes

[Eas85]

Hi All, first post!

Been reading this forum for a couple of weeks and gotta say, thanks for all the excellent advice, I have been looking at getting a bike for a few months and just from reading what you guys have written here you have convinced me not to get a chinese type scooter and instead get something like a cg125 or ybr125 as my first bike.

So that aside, I was wondering when buying a bike, I assume these 125's when manufactured don't come restricted, so if I pass my CBT and then buy a cg/ybr do I have to pay do get it restricted myself in order to have valid insurance. Just not sure what the deal is with the whole restriction thing, as when you look at the specs of these bikes people say top speed 70/75mph. I was under the impression that when you got your CBT you could ride a max 125cc bike with a top speed of 50mph. (btw i'm 26 so would qualify for 125cc with CBT)

Any advice on this would be appreciated, and I'm sure this is gonna be the first query of many.

[Blob]

CG125 and YBR125 are both learner legal bikes. Meaning they are at the restricted power limit or less. These two are probably the best bikes to learn on as they are comfortable, cheap, easy to handle and they hold they're price well, aswell as having enough power to get to and from where you need to go, assuming it will be commuting (dual carriageways you'll be stuck with the HGVs but still get from A to B )

Hope this is of some help *waits for mike*
Will
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[Rogerborg]

Learner legal bikes can have up to 11kW. Pretty much every 4 stroke 125 qualifies.

In order to qualify as an "A2" bike for test purposes (gets you a proper "A <= 25kW" license rather than a joke "A1" license) they actually need to be capable (or claimed to be capable) of 100kph+ =~ 62.5mph+.
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[Eas85]

So it doesn't really matter about top speed, just as long as it's under 11 kw?

I've seen must people say just get any bike, but I don't want anything too run into the ground as am planning on using it for anything between a 20-40 mile commute (all depending whether I can get a new job in leicester or coventry).

Also, would a cg/ybr suit my height as I'm 6"3 tall

[Teflon-Mike]

Yup; provisional licence requirements impose power and weight restrictions, as the A2, 2 year 'restricted' 'full-licence' after test on a 125.

Nearly all 125's sold are Learner Legal, as they come from teh show room.

There are a number of 'exotics' things like Aprillia's and Cagiva's that are delivered to the UK 'Full Power' and make around 25ish bhp, depending on model and variant, that have to be 'Dealer-Restricted', when you buy them, if you don't have a full licence, and there are loads of 'private imports', that have been brought in from Italy or the like that are 'full power' and not Learner Legal without retrospective, 'owner' restrictions fitted (And even more UK bikes, masquerading as full power imports, with L-Plates on them!)

Unless you are buying something with a two stroke engine though; chances are its nothing to worry about. As Roger says there are virtually NO four stroke 125's that don't comply with Learner Legal restrictions; in fact I can think of only one; and that's the 1977-1981 Honda CB125 'Twin' and the rare Belgian market 'Full-Power' 1982 -1986 CB125 'Super-Dream' that made a WHOPPING 2bhp more than the current 15bhp learner limit!

less than a handful of four stroke 125's these days even get close to the UK learner Limit, of 15bhp; the Honda CBR125 and Veradaro, offering about 13/14bhp, and the Yamaha R125 making maybe 14.

Everything else, will be delivering around 10bhp, WELL within the learner limit.

But that's enough to get you up to a comfortable 60mph and occasional 65, and depending on how accurate the speedo, possibly see just over an indicated 70mph!

There are no mandatory 'governed' speed limits on 125 learner bikes; there ARE on mopeds, which are supposed to
not be able to achieve more than 35mph, but not on motorcycles, where its down to you to observe the posted speed limit for the road you are on.

CG or YBR, or other reputable brand four stroke 125, you should be fine.
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[RamonTR]

This is what used to confuse me aswell - the 50mph limit on CBT - Until I asked XD

Assuming most A-roads and dual carriageways are on 50mph limit and since you cant use motorways, may be not on paper but practically you are limited to 50mph...
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[Eas85]

Had a chat with a mate earlier (former biker) he said that due to the light weight of the 125's I would really struggle with stability due to my size, 6"3 and 14 stone.

Thoughts?

[Teflon-Mike]

[ThatsTheBadge...]

I'd just like to add that I'm 6'3 and 14 stone and had a CG125 for eight months, not a struggle at all, you may look a bit big for the bike but they can handle it.

I even got mine up to an indicated 70mph and that's saying something considering my height and weight.

[BigGeeking]

and im 6foot 3 15 stone and my cg will pull me at 60 with ease in strong wind you do get pushed about a bit but nothing to put you off i realy like my cg faster than what i thought i would be and easy as hell to work on
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