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hbro789
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: MY First Ped Reply with quote

Yeah this will be my first ped Smile

I'm in the middle of doing my driving lessons but its just to expensive at the moment, also in the middle of moving out so I'm going to put my driving on hold.

To get to work I pay £15 a day to get a train, its only 10 miles away so I would save so much money by getting a ped.

I've always had push bikes and loved them so I think I will enjoy having a bike, i'm 18 so I could get a 125 but I would much rather just get a 50cc for now and see how it goes, let myself get used to it as well as the roads then maybe upgrade. (Will also be cheaper to insure and fuel)

Now its time to ask the question, would moped would you say is cheap on both insurance and fuel and not a expensive bike as I haven't got much due to living with my GF who has a low income.

Please give me any advice possible!

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the long term you'll probably save money. Short term it will cost you a small fortune.

I question your wanting of a 50cc ped. It wont be any cheaper to run than a decent 125. A 125 would be better for keeping up with the traffic. Would give you a little more road presence and more fun to ride.

Short term costs after buying the bike and insuring it would be as follows:

CBT - around £100.
Helmet - between £60 and £300
Riding in all weathers you'll want textiles - £100+ for top and bottoms.
Boots - £50+
Gloves - £30+
Tax - £17.50 (ish)
Locks - £30+ for basic min

Then you have upkeep of the bike.

But in the long run it will work out cheaper.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
In the long term you'll probably save money. Short term it will cost you a small fortune.

I question your wanting of a 50cc ped. It wont be any cheaper to run than a decent 125. A 125 would be better for keeping up with the traffic. Would give you a little more road presence and more fun to ride.

Short term costs after buying the bike and insuring it would be as follows:

CBT - around £100.
Helmet - between £60 and £300
Riding in all weathers you'll want textiles - £100+ for top and bottoms.
Boots - £50+
Gloves - £30+
Tax - £17.50 (ish)
Locks - £30+ for basic min

Then you have upkeep of the bike.

But in the long run it will work out cheaper.


My brother has just passed his driving test and no longer rides bikes, he has given me his helmet and all the clothing gear as well as a expensive disc lock.

So all I really need to do is my CBT and a new pair of boots. And is there not much different between a 50cc and 125cc then? I just thought it might have been best to have a little bit of experience with a 50cc first.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff on the gear hand downs. Saves some money.

Personally if your 18 then dont waste time on a ped. Get yourself a geared 125. You'll learn how to ride it on the CBT and you'll know if biking is for you then. Failing that go for one of those Get On course thingys they do.

But a 50cc would be a false economy. You'll be wanting to do your full test and a 125 means you get your full license with a 2 year restriction. Doing the full test on a 50 means you're stuck on the small bike until you retest.

CBT lasts 2 years. Get that done, Get a bike and pass your full test before the CBT runs out. Saves money that way too even keeping the 125.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Great stuff on the gear hand downs. Saves some money.

Personally if your 18 then dont waste time on a ped. Get yourself a geared 125. You'll learn how to ride it on the CBT and you'll know if biking is for you then. Failing that go for one of those Get On course thingys they do.

But a 50cc would be a false economy. You'll be wanting to do your full test and a 125 means you get your full license with a 2 year restriction. Doing the full test on a 50 means you're stuck on the small bike until you retest.

CBT lasts 2 years. Get that done, Get a bike and pass your full test before the CBT runs out. Saves money that way too even keeping the 125.


I think its more I've never even been on a geared bike so I'm kinda nervous about it, what bike would you recommend so I can do a little research Smile
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 3 main bikes to recomend for first 125 that have been covered many many times on this forum.

Honda - CG 125
Suzuki - EN 125
Yamaha - YBR 125

As for riding them. Get to grips with the changing gears, which will eventually come naturally and the only difference between riding one of those little things and riding a 1300cc Hyabusa is an extra gear to play with. Everything else is the same.

The way the CBT normally works is they let you get familiar with the controls of the bike in the off road area they use, if you really struggle then they may put you onto a ped for the remainder of the CBT. But when you know the basics of the gear change you can sit the CBT on the ped and figure out the gears in your own time on your own geared bike.

Another plus point about the above bikes. You'll get a decent model that hasnt been ragged to within an inch of its life, or hasnt been chavved by the pedboi's who know nothing about maintainance and looking after their machine, and then sell it for almost what you paid for it when you pass your test.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
There are 3 main bikes to recomend for first 125 that have been covered many many times on this forum.

Honda - CG 125
Suzuki - EN 125
Yamaha - YBR 125

As for riding them. Get to grips with the changing gears, which will eventually come naturally and the only difference between riding one of those little things and riding a 1300cc Hyabusa is an extra gear to play with. Everything else is the same.

The way the CBT normally works is they let you get familiar with the controls of the bike in the off road area they use, if you really struggle then they may put you onto a ped for the remainder of the CBT. But when you know the basics of the gear change you can sit the CBT on the ped and figure out the gears in your own time on your own geared bike.

Another plus point about the above bikes. You'll get a decent model that hasnt been ragged to within an inch of its life, or hasnt been chavved by the pedboi's who know nothing about maintainance and looking after their machine, and then sell it for almost what you paid for it when you pass your test.


Well what I'm going to do is go for a geared bike and see how it goes from there Smile

I've just done some research and I personal like the Yamaha out of the three, thanks for your advice Smile

Another quick question, what peds would you suggest?
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think peds are spawn of the devil and should be abolished at all costs. Laughing

So I'm not best prepared to answer your question but I am sure someone will recomend something.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I question your wanting of a 50cc ped. It wont be any cheaper to run than a decent 125. A 125 would be better for keeping up with the traffic. Would give you a little more road presence and more fun to ride.


This.

A ped may be fine in town, but as soon as the roads open up a bit you'll be screwing the arse off the engine just to keep up to speed, and you'll have impatient car drivers driving right up your arse because you're too slow. A ped is for 16 year olds that can't legally ride anything else. If you've got the choice of a 125 go for it, whether that's a scooter or a bike, it's all 2 wheels.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your going for a scooter I would go for this one Drooling Drooling

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 20 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just this week, we had a post from a guy with a ped who's been knocked off twice already by cagers overtaking and cutting in on him.

I cannot imagine anything worse than riding a 50cc 30mph ped in modern traffic, urban or otherwise. You might as well put a bumper on the back of it, and let every White Van Man and Repmobile push you along, because they'll be driving within an inch of your tailpipe and trying constantly to bully past you anyway.

Why we force the highest risk riders only the most vulnerable machines is quite beyond me.
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