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monty16v
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 23 Aug 2011    Post subject: RS 125 wont start just backfires Reply with quote

have a 98 rs125
bike has been going 100%

today it felt although i was running out of petrol, although i had petrol in the bike so i pulled over
bike wont start now seems to be turning over a little slower on the starter
tried new plug br10eg, still the same
tried a push, with choke on/off, throttle open/closed still no joy just backfires when pushing it
i took fuel pipe off valve on the tank and fuel is making it that far at least
plug is sparking as well

anybody got any ideas
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 23 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

was the plug wet when you pulled it out? might be worth checking your getting a spark to - you can remove the plug and then connect the ht lead back and make sure the plug is in contact with the fream and turn the bike over, needs a nice blue spark (do not put your hands on the plug!! rest it on the fram making contact but deffo font hold it!) sorry if you know all this or have tried it

also what does the air filter look like?
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 23 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS huh?
Hows your oil level? And (hate to ask this) did you fill up with petrol, or diesel? Had a mate who fuelled up with diesel on an RS. It didn't kill it; but it didn't turn over until we got some neat petrol into it.

Guessing you've checked the kill-switch already.
The ignition timing okay? And, it being a 2-stroke; how long has it been since your last rebuild?
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 23 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuzukiTom wrote:
was the plug wet when you pulled it out? might be worth checking your getting a spark to - you can remove the plug and then connect the ht lead back and make sure the plug is in contact with the fream and turn the bike over, needs a nice blue spark (do not put your hands on the plug!! rest it on the fram making contact but deffo font hold it!) sorry if you know all this or have tried it

also what does the air filter look like?


bike is sparking, plug wasnt wet no
air filter is ok, not great but has been running 100% with that filter



ClockworkJesus wrote:
RS huh?
Hows your oil level? And (hate to ask this) did you fill up with petrol, or diesel? Had a mate who fuelled up with diesel on an RS. It didn't kill it; but it didn't turn over until we got some neat petrol into it.

Guessing you've checked the kill-switch already.
The ignition timing okay? And, it being a 2-stroke; how long has it been since your last rebuild?


oil level is full, i just filled it earlier today
no definitely petrol
kill switch is fine
cant say when it was last rebuilt as i dont have it very long, but the compression seems good
im thinking its fuel related or timing
will get bike home tomorro clean the carb out see if that helps any
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 23 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

aha, 'compression seems good' have you used a guage to test? i would do just incase its a good point.


When was the last time the carbs were apart for a clean? its a dead simple carb, a dellorto i think.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS125? Checked your cam/valve timing? Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
RS125? Checked your cam/valve timing? Wink Laughing


Wut?

OP, hows your battery? Turning over slow isnt fantastic.

How have you checked compression? Mine was showing 130psi but was locking dead.. turned out to be main bearings Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
RS125? Checked your cam/valve timing? Wink Laughing


Wut?


humour Smile
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monty16v
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuzukiTom wrote:
aha, 'compression seems good' have you used a guage to test? i would do just incase its a good point.


When was the last time the carbs were apart for a clean? its a dead simple carb, a dellorto i think.


have no compression gauge, compression is good though, it was going fine one minute then not the next so i dont think this is the problem

just brought bike home on trailer gona have a look at the carb now

PhilDawson8270 wrote:
RS125? Checked your cam/valve timing? Wink Laughing


that would be quite hard considering its a 2 stroke

##Paddy## wrote:

OP, hows your battery? Turning over slow isnt fantastic.

How have you checked compression? Mine was showing 130psi but was locking dead.. turned out to be main bearings Laughing


battery is fine, even with push start bike wont fire just does like a spluttery backfire every few seconds
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuel tap is on?

Check your fuel tank breather in case it is blocked stopped fuel supply to the engine.

You can't test compression by 'I think it's good'. It may have snapped a ring or the piston may have started to break down. Take the exhaust off and have a look through the exhaust port to see what the state of the piston / powervalve if fitted are like.

Is your oil pump working well?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

But a crap battery will result in crap running on most things.
Do you have a tester? How old is the battery?


Also the compression being fine and the bike running one minute and not the next... Rolling Eyes Compression could have disappeared.

Charge battery to be sure, pull out spark plug, put thumb over spark plug hole and crank it over. My RS was at 130psi (was dead though, so compression isnt the be all and end all test) and it was sucking my thumb in and forcing it off, I couldnt press against it.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you put the correct 2T oil in?
i.e. Fully synthetic, not semi
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

andy_uk wrote:
Have you put the correct 2T oil in?
i.e. Fully synthetic, not semi


Laughing

Wouldnt make it spaz out, might reduce its life a bit.. but it doesnt NEED fully to run.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
andy_uk wrote:
Have you put the correct 2T oil in?
i.e. Fully synthetic, not semi


Laughing

Wouldnt make it spaz out, might reduce its life a bit.. but it doesnt NEED fully to run.


My Classic 125 has the same engine and when I was given semi synth to put in it I suffered similar problems.
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lihp
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 24 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

monty16v wrote:


PhilDawson8270 wrote:
RS125? Checked your cam/valve timing? Wink Laughing


that would be quite hard considering its a 2 stroke



look at my post before yours Wink and the emoticons.

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PostPosted: 21:14 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorted it out yesterday when i got it home.
air filter had started to disentegrate and small bits of foam were in bottom of airbox, must ogthen blocked the carb
took carb off, flushed out bowl, set float, blew out the 3 jets with copious ammounts of carb cleaner
bike was going well again after that

sold it today and bought a better one with 34mm carb and full stainless exhaust, much nicer to ride
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

knew it was carbs!
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