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Landy
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Bandit vs Hornet Vs Sv650 Vs Street Triple Reply with quote

i've been reading through various stuff on the web regarding which bikes are best after passing DAS and the above four are often mentioned. My only experience is riding an ER500 as that's what im learning on which to be honest I think I would soon get bored with.

So which of the above bikes is considered best, I am just over 6ft tall & approx 14.5 stone.

Personally I like the look of the Triumph the most but then this is also the most expensive and I have also read that it is not worth spending too much on your 1st bike as it is likely to get dropped.

As I will probably be buying from eBay I may not get the opportunity to ride the bikes before hand...
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Bandit vs Hornet Vs Sv650 Vs Street Triple Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
As I will probably be buying from eBay I may not get the opportunity to ride the bikes before hand...


No, but you can sit on them...definitely go try and ind a dealer with them.

The Triumph is great btw Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Triumph is the best bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the Trumpet out of those.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit I like the look of the Triumph the best but then it is much more expensive and this will be my first ever bike, looking on ebay I can pick up a sv650 for half the price, I know the Triple is good but is it really twice as good?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The triumph is the only one that intrigues me out of that list, as I do have experience of the other three but not the trumpet.

Out of the other three I would go for the hornet as I have a soft spot for them. Its the quickest out of the three and although its not all the way up to hondas legendary build quality its a step ahead of the bandit and sv. SV is a good short term bike but it gets very boring very quickly, Ive never been a big bandit fan and the ones Ive seen tend to rust, the ones Ive rode tend to be a bit 'slack' but probably the most comfortable out of those three.

Still, the triumph is the most exotic (I dont know if thats a good thing lol) out of those options.

Would have to try them mate, only way you'll know - even if its just from sitting on them!
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The triumph is the only one that intrigues me out of that list, as I do have experience of the other three but not the trumpet.

Out of the other three I would go for the hornet as I have a soft spot for them. Its the quickest out of the three and although its not all the way up to hondas legendary build quality its a step ahead of the bandit and sv. SV is a good short term bike but it gets very boring very quickly, Ive never been a big bandit fan and the ones Ive seen tend to rust, the ones Ive rode tend to be a bit 'slack' but probably the most comfortable out of those three.

Still, the triumph is the most exotic (I dont know if thats a good thing lol) out of those options.

Would have to try them mate, only way you'll know - even if its just from sitting on them!
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I bought my first bike yesterday. i went for a 04 Hornet. Only one owner from new and low mileage (under 7k) and it cost me £3k. That was from a Honda dealer. I kinda felt that was ok for my first bike. Getting it in a few days, just waiting on the crash bobbins to come in (don't intend dropping it but hey ho want to be safe or at least want my engine to be safe)

I did like the CBF600 but after sitting my test on a GS500 I wasn't too keen staying with Suzuki.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could add the new diversion and the ER6 to that list as well as the fazer.

My wife has a fazer and an ER6 and used to own a bandit. I have a Street triple.

The Bandit she had was the first of the liquid cooled, a 2007 I think. Poor build qualiy as far as finish goes and she found it top heavy. I thought it was OK but keep the FS365 or ACF50 handy.

The fazer we have is a 2000 carbed model and I love riding it. I rant it something rotten and give it shit loads of abuse and it still comes back for more!

The ER6 is a twin and rather down on power compared to the others but the wife likes it cause its narrow and light, easy for her to manouever.

The Street triple is way out ahead of any of the above. The handling is razor sharp and the engine is something else. I came down in size from a busa to the striple and don't regret it at all as its so much fun to ride. However as you already know you don't get cheap ones.
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 27 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

From that list, there is only one - the Triumph.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 27 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely the Street Triple... bags more character Smile
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 27 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely the Street Triple... bags more character Smile
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 27 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just popped in my local Honda dealers, got talking to a guy who reckons I would soon get bored with a Hornet and would be better off with a CBR600F. Now I am getting even more confused Confused
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 27 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
I just popped in my local Honda dealers, got talking to a guy who reckons I would soon get bored with a Hornet and would be better off with a CBR600F. Now I am getting even more confused Confused


Because hes trying to flog you a more expensive bike Rolling Eyes

As a Hornet owner I think they're an excellent first bike and as Villers says is a bit ahead of the other two in a number of ways but the Street Triple is in a whole other league. I've never rode a STriple but a quick go on a Daytona 675 was enough to tell me the engine is a beaut.

I have to ask though, why are you buying a new or relatively new bike? Not everyone is the hamfisted idiot I am but I've had a couple of 'incidents'. My secondhand Hornet cost me £2k, if I'd seen anything more expensive than that slide into the gravel trap on my first track day I probably would have cried. S/H Street Triples are still a fair bit of money; go a bit cheaper for your first bike!

Why don't you tell us a bit more about what you want to do with your bike?
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Because hes trying to flog you a more expensive bike Rolling Eyes


No it was another customer who I got talking too, he had ridden both the Hornet and the CBR, he said if I wanted a bike to commute on then the Hornet is ok but if it is just for pleasure (and it will be) then the CBR600 would be much more fun and is also excellent for track days.

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I have to ask though, why are you buying a new or relatively new bike? Not everyone is the hamfisted idiot I am but I've had a couple of 'incidents'. My secondhand Hornet cost me £2k, if I'd seen anything more expensive than that slide into the gravel trap on my first track day I probably would have cried. S/H Street Triples are still a fair bit of money; go a bit cheaper for your first bike!


To be honest I don't know that I will be, I only went to the dealer just to have a look and sit on a few as was suggested by others. I did like the look of the new CBR but then who wouldn't like the look of a brand new bike in a showroom, 0% finance as well hmm tempting Smile But in reality if I dropped the thing within the first few weeks I would be crying.

I will almost certainly end up buying second hand and I guess £2-£3K sounds like a reasonable amount to spend it just came as a bit of a shock when this guy said don't buy a Hornet, and he said the same of the other bikes on my list, to make it worse another chap then came over who also agreed that the first guy. Confused

I did like the look of the Hornet though so it still remains on my list it's just I liked the look of the CBR even more. I have yet to sit on a Bandit, sv650 or Triumph.

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Why don't you tell us a bit more about what you want to do with your bike?


Well I work from home so don't need to commute, it's purely a toy for pleasure so rides out, bike meets, maybe the odd track day and anything else that takes my fancy. My wife said "If you get a bike don't ever ask me to get on the back" so that's a result. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice would entirely depend if this is your first big bike or not...i.e. the one you are going to be falling off in the near future? I don't mean to be harsh, but you need to think about these things. Only a small percentage of new bikers do not have accidents. Idea

If this is your first big bike, then buy cheap. Once you have learnt the precious road craft and made all the errors new bikers make, then is the time to be looking for something a lot more suited to your needs aesthetically and for speed.

I learnt my road craft on a stocky sturdy 400cc bike, one which was forgiving and held its price range four years later when I was looking for my next set of wheels.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my Hornet but out of the choices you offer I would certainly get the Triumph.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i bought an sv650s 2007 model as my first decent bike, fantastic at first, going straight from a 125 on that seemed amazing, but it seems to lack something now, great for getting me around yes, picks up in all gears no problems, just lacks a bit of fun.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Landy wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
Because hes trying to flog you a more expensive bike Rolling Eyes


No it was another customer who I got talking too, he had ridden both the Hornet and the CBR, he said if I wanted a bike to commute on then the Hornet is ok but if it is just for pleasure (and it will be) then the CBR600 would be much more fun and is also excellent for track days.



Not sure I agree that the CBR600F is more "fun". Faster yes, more fun I'm not so sure. The Hornet's lower budget suspension and lack of fairing makes it seems like you're going faster than you are compared to the 600F. As a comparison I've owned the steel and alloy framed CBR600Fs and two hornet 6's.

Hornet's easier to boss around, better for a first timers, easier to wheelie, can still hustle with the best of them if you hammer it, and can hold it's own in the fast group of a trackday (If you can live with the pegs grinding themselves to atoms in every single bend Laughing ).

If it were for me I'd be going Hornet or Street Triple. As it's your first big bike and you're rather likely at least drop it in a car park I'd be going for a Hornet. More user friendly, spares and purchase cost are both lower.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like Hornet will be my best bet to start off with then, thanks everyone.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore everyone here - an 'off' is not inevitable on your first bike.

I had 3 faired bikes in 3 years (90,000) miles and I only dropped one (or layed down) at a fuel pump that had diesel on the floor.

But for a fun weekend bike, I would get the CBR600F rather than the Hornet.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore everyone here - an 'off' is not inevitable on your first bike.

I had 3 faired bikes in 3 years (90,000) miles and I only dropped one (or layed down) at a fuel pump that had diesel on the floor.

But for a fun weekend bike, I would get the CBR600F rather than the Hornet.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

FakeIrish wrote:
But for a fun weekend bike, I would get the CBR600F rather than the Hornet.


I'd choose the opposite... I'd find the Hornet more "fun" ... CBR600F has turned into a commuting bike with plastic now Laughing Definitely for fun out of the 2, Hornet would be top.

Still Triumph Wink
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
FakeIrish wrote:
But for a fun weekend bike, I would get the CBR600F rather than the Hornet.


I'd choose the opposite... I'd find the Hornet more "fun" ... CBR600F has turned into a commuting bike with plastic now Laughing Definitely for fun out of the 2, Hornet would be top.

Still Triumph Wink


Sorry for the thread hijack.....

Paddy, have you ridden the 2007 model Hornet? On the motorway? Would you commute on it to London from M/stone? It's on my list too!
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