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dransy
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: ammo box panniers Reply with quote

Hi im thinking about grabbing a couple of ammo boxes of egay and putting them on my gs500.

What would be the best way to mount them and where abouts?

Also what kind of metal should i use to make some form of mount for them?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The metal tends to split if you just bolt them on, even with penny washers on the inside.

A bit of thin plywood on the inside of the box, with a couple of bolts and penny washers going through it to attach them to whatever rail you cobble together is good.

It's also good to have a wee bit of support from underneath if possible, even if it's only a bit of L-section for the edge nearest the bike
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petsonally I'd forget bolts and get the MIG out, but then I don't much of an excuse for a bit of welding.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it be good to weld them to some sort of frame / mount that then bolts to the bike ?

I can borrow a stick welded or oxycetaline welder from a mate so welding isn't a problem .
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask Martay, he put some on his SH50 and they haven't broken yet!
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty thin, fairly springy steel they're made of. I'd worry about it splitting next to the weld (or there's a pretty good chance of blowing a hole in it depending on how good you are with a welder).

The plywood insert thing is tried and tested. You cut a piece of ply the same size as the side of the box, put it inside and bolt it on through that. Two M6 bolts with a penny washer is fine.

Another top tip for ammo boxes is to drill a small hole between two of the hinge sections and put a pop-rivett through it with the flat side on the inside of the box and the 'popped' part to the outside. This prevents the lid sliding sideways and coming off the hinge pins every time you open it.
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PostPosted: 03:57 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

a quick search at google for gs500 ammo boxes turned this up

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5188095312_553f6f51b7.jpg

mybe something similar would work for you maybe not exactly but why not make a support frame up out of thin metal plates then mount the boxes inside

also what exact model do you have cause the bike i found it dosent suit the look idk maybe you have a older one or a more millitary looking one
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

go on www.ratbike.org . Search for Ammo. Look at pictures of 13 different bikes with ammo boxes attached.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there mine is an older one 1990 and its a rat so should suite it pretty well I hope
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=223370&highlight=ammo+box+panniers
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As billing said, ive got some on my SH.

Bolted on using small exhaust brackets bolted round the frame tube, or in my case, rear grab rail / rack. Bolted inside with washers.
I havent had a problem yet, been on for a while carrying tools/spares/sandwiches etc. Ive even used them to support the bike when i had to lay it over.

Just uploading some pics Smile

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Theyre only small, but its a small bike!

https://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/MartayP/P290811_21340001.jpg

https://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/MartayP/P290811_21350002.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ You've got me thinking about doing that to my CG now.

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, they do split.

Takes a wee while but they go eventually.

Here's one I fitted using 1 1/2" penny washers on the inside of the box. It was on my CB125 for about 6 months and eventually this happened. Caught it happening before it fell off entirely though.

I just use that one as a toolbox now.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=80242
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 30 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine were fantastic for 2.2k miles around europe and a months worth of commuting afterwards....

https://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/chillyman0/2011-06-21140940.jpg

https://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/chillyman0/2011-06-21141021.jpg


https://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/chillyman0/2011-06-21140927.jpg

https://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/chillyman0/2011-06-21140903.jpg

Got a thin piece of ally running between the 2 holes in the centre of each box, then bolted onto the top box rails with some chunky iron brakets used as spacers, then to stop any flex I aquired 2 lengths of 8mm Stainless threaded and a bag of 8mm bolts and a few nylock nuts, run the bar through existing holes in the corners of the boxes and and wound on the nuts to sandwich either side of each face of the boxes. Then just bodged up some brackets to run down to the pillion root rests to take some of the force forward.

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dgo1212 wrote:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=223370&highlight=ammo+box+panniers


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