under 10k miles and chain loose

[teuma86]

hey all.

riding along and noticed a rattling sound on the bike when i come of the throttle. checked around and noticed the chain a lose.

my friends dad had a quick look and i saw the chain jumping around. knocking against the stand. causing the rattling.

Bike Details: Kawasaki ER6-F 2009 just under 10,000 miles.

A: what would/could cause this

B: How much roughly is this going to set me back by roughly? money is tight at the moment. in the lasy couple of months i have paid for a service, removal of restriction kit and a new front tyre.

[.....]

I take it you've reached the end of the chain's adjustment? Have you looked after the chain?

[Mikey CB500]

I do presume youve been lubing and tightening the chain regulary?

[Kickstart]

Hi

If it just needs adjustment and lubing then it will cost you next to nothing to do yourself.

If it needs a new chain and sprocket kit then about £80 mail order for you to do it yourself.

Pay a dealer to do that and they will probably charge more for the kit and an hours labour to fit it (so say double it).

All the best

Keith
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[Oldie]

How many miles have you done since the recent service?

[teuma86]

i lube the chain regulary i dont know how to tighten it. i am not that good with the maitenance on the bike, althoug i do want to learn.

i have done approx 2k miles since the service. i have been doing a lot of miles this year.

[.....]

You probably just need to tighten the chain. Either look in the manual as to how to do it, take it to a mechanic and watch them for future reference or find someone local to show you.

There's a PDF owner's manual here

https://shanetp.110mb.com/99986-1451%202009%20ER-6F.pdf

If you're really desperate you're not too far from me if you need a hand.

[teuma86]

i popped round to see my uncle today who helped me adjust the chain. he has said that the chain is worn and i need a new chain and set of sprockets and he will help me fit them.

so can anyone recomend where i can purchase a set of sprockets and a new chain. i know im on a budget but i dont want to buy something that is cheap and not goinb to last.

[Kickstart]

Hi

B&C Express have fair prices and a good service.

All the best

Keith
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[Casper]

You should get a good DID set on eBay for around 70 quid.

[Nick 50]

As for cause of it, Is your back wheel alignment spot on? If it's out that will definitely reduce the life of the chain.

As for learning maintenance, use youtube to get an idea of what needs to be done and also some of the more technical stuff like carb balancing etc etc.


I used this vid for chain tension and wheel alignment:

https://youtu.be/zB4DsHV8SAQ

[Rogerborg]

[dannyjohnson]

Right,You should get a good DID set on eBay for around 70 quid.
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[teuma86]

[doggone]

You can't easily remove the chain because it probably won't have a split link like he's thinking, even if it does there's no need and it's very messy.
Simply lubricating it more with the aerosol spray will help a lot, ideally clean it with paraffin or diesel once a month or so too.
You can do it in place with an old paint brush and a good sized rag to remove the softened gunk.

Technically a good O ring chain has sealed links (filled with grease) and doesn't need lubrication, but it does need to be kept 'oily' to stop corrosion especially on the side plates.
Be careful with your adjusting, a common mistake is to overtighten which causes very rapid wear.
A new set will hardly need touching for the first few thousand miles.

With your weight on the bike the suspension geometry changes in a way which tightens it more.
I check it's not too tight by laying over the pillion and reaching down to it - you will look ridiculous but worth doing.

[Kickstart]

[DrDonnyBrago]

[Frost]

If the chain doesn't have a split link, then you won't want to put one on with a split link. So you'll need a chain riveting tool. It's done like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygJZuzjvIMY

[.....]

If you're lazy like me and/or do a lot of miles then consider fitting a Scottoiler.

Some people don't seem to get on with them but mine has been great since fitting it.

[teuma86]

That is another question. How often should I be lubing my chain. Someone said it should be done every 1k miles or so (depending on conditions I am riding in)

Someone said, a well lubes chain should only need lubing once a year.

Someone said, weekly, regardless of riding or standing all week.

big gap between Weekly and Yearly. Suggestions and why please.

[Robby]

Weekly. Lube gets flung off. The chain should always look a bit wet.

[P.]

When mine starts looking dry I lube it.

Usually weekly.. but maybe every 2 weeks if I forget to check

[Pete.]

Boiling the chain in link life is no longer done on modern chains with o-rings.

After 10k miles with sparse adjustment it's no wonder it needs changing.

Get yourself a new chain and sprocket kit - buy the best quality you can afford. EK, DID, Tsubaki are all good makes but they also come in different grades.

To get the old chain off you just cut it with a grinder - BUT - before you do this make sure that:

1) you can get the front sprocket nut off - and
2) you have the means to rivet the new chain link

It's important to loosen the front sprocket before removing the chain because very often they are extremely tight.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Kickstart]

[teuma86]

I am going to order an o-ring

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EX-650-ER6F-Faired-2009-C9F-O-Ring-Chain-Sprocket-Kit-/280703882445?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item415b4154cd

Do I need to purchase a Paddock Stand (or something else) as the ER6-F Does not have a Centre Stand.