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Toccs
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Chain Help Reply with quote

Morning,

I've had my current chain for 4 years now so i'm due a new one.

My question is which of the below do i get? and whats the difference? (they are for my XT125X 2007)

Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain and Sprocket Kit DID
Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain and Sprocket Kit - Kyoto Heavy Duty

or

Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain DID Standard Grade
Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain DID Heavy Duty

I've never done a chain change is it easy to do?

This is the bike...

https://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2005/Yamaha_XT125X_st3pz.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't offer a recommendation except to suggest you replace the sprocket as well.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 years?!

Christ.

Do the chain and sprockets... Would be batshit mental not to Laughing
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Toccs
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
4 years?!

Christ.

Do the chain and sprockets... Would be batshit mental not to Laughing


4 years a long time then? I got the bike new in 2007.


So do i get the...

Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain and Sprocket Kit DID

or

Yamaha XT 125 X 07-09 Chain and Sprocket Kit - Kyoto Heavy Duty
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Toccs
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Chain, does look kinda bad actually lol

https://img196.imageshack.us/img196/936/img0470lm.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably go through a year and kill a set. Maybe less if I dont bother maintaining it.

4 years is a long time..

And...holy fuck.

https://s4.postimage.org/jh1bx0obf/IMG_0470_1.jpg

Thats well slack Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DID is the obvious choice, great chains.

The Kyoto, i've got one on the CBR now, needs adjusting again... after about 3000 miles its tightened it well over 10 times Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanksfor the advice i've ordered the one you mentioned, now to learn how to change it hah.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toccs wrote:
Thanksfor the advice i've ordered the one you mentioned, now to learn how to change it hah.


Honestly, quite simple.

Remove the front sprocket first with someone sitting on the bike and holding the rear brake.

Then you can remove the chain using the split link.

Remove rear wheel and replace sprocket.

Build it back up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Defo need a new rear sprocket too. Thats in a terrible state!

I wouldnt ride that anymore until the works done on it. Theres many tales on BCF, some just recently, about chains coming off and causing damage to bike or person.

Get that sorted out ASAP.
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Toccs
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Defo need a new rear sprocket too. Thats in a terrible state!

I wouldnt ride that anymore until the works done on it. Theres many tales on BCF, some just recently, about chains coming off and causing damage to bike or person.

Get that sorted out ASAP.


Made some phone calls and I’ll be getting the parts by Friday, spoke to one of my old man’s mates who repairs bikes and he’s going to help me with it. (since i haven’t got a bloody clue I’m a techy not a mechanic, would love to learn though)

Just hope it holds out until Thursday :S
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh good lord that is horrific. When was the last time you checked the oil and tyre pressures while we're on the subject?
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Oh good lord that is horrific. When was the last time you checked the oil and tyre pressures while we're on the subject?


Engine oil? i check that every 6 months ish and i got new tyres when i had my MOT in december 2010, I really do need educating on the subject hate not knowing how to fix things myself.

So if you have any tips even down to the very basic please let me know.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know how true this lil snippet is but it's 'apparently' illegal to ride with a chain that slack.

A cop can nick you and impound the bike.

Anyone back me up on that?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
Don't know how true this lil snippet is but it's 'apparently' illegal to ride with a chain that slack.

A cop can nick you and impound the bike.

Anyone back me up on that?


I have ridden with worse... but there are some guidelines...some say they will stop you riding as its unsafe.

I feel sorry for your bike... checking oil every 6 months!? I do mine weekly.

Tyres replaced doesnt mean you dont check the pressures Neutral

Man, where abouts are you?
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Alex_B wrote:
Don't know how true this lil snippet is but it's 'apparently' illegal to ride with a chain that slack.

A cop can nick you and impound the bike.

Anyone back me up on that?


I have ridden with worse... but there are some guidelines...some say they will stop you riding as its unsafe.

I feel sorry for your bike... checking oil every 6 months!? I do mine weekly.

Tyres replaced doesnt mean you dont check the pressures Neutral

Man, where abouts are you?


I live in Sutton, Surrey. See i didnt know any of that! I'm one of those people that learns best by being shown, i've tried reading on the subject but it all looks to difficult and i'm worried that ill end up f**king the bike up.

I would compare it to computers you know a part goes wrong takes two seconds to find the problem or simply replace the part, with a bike it seems alot more risky, loads of things to watch out for. My lack of knowledge here actually frustrates me. I bet you lot are laughing your ass's off at the state of my bike.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all start somewhere mate Thumbs Up

Not a million miles away from me... probably an hour hour n 15 ride from me... ish

If you need some help doing some bits and bobs like that feel free to ride down Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toccs wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
Oh good lord that is horrific. When was the last time you checked the oil and tyre pressures while we're on the subject?


Engine oil? i check that every 6 months ish and i got new tyres when i had my MOT in december 2010, I really do need educating on the subject hate not knowing how to fix things myself.

So if you have any tips even down to the very basic please let me know.


You should be able to check your pressures are within the manufacturers guidelines with a very basic pressure gauge. Over the last 9 months I'm sure they've probably lost some air. At the very least, take it along to a petrol station and use one of their compressors. They are often a few PSI out but it could be better than nothing.

Theres almost certainly an owners forum for your bike. See if you can find it, there are often step-by-step guides on there for how to do things; if not then use the search function as there are almost certainly threads about it. You can probably find the service manual for it there too. If you have no joy with that, search on here for things like 'adjusting chain' and so on.

As for the oil it is meant to be done at specific service intervals, as per your owners manual, in miles/km not months. And its not advisable to just check it, you need to keep it topped up too.

Oh and what tools do you have at your disposal? Things like ring spanners, sockets, screwdrivers? Do you have the bike's original toolkit? Do you have stuff like brake cleaner, chain lube, WD40 and so on?

Individual preferences towards bike maintenance seem to differ quite a bit. For the mileage I do I check the tyres and oil level every week and everything else every month or so. Chain gets lubed once every few hundred miles and properly cleaned once in a blue moon.

Oh and your bike could do with a bloody good clean, that swingarm is filthy. Cleaning it does help you get to know what each bit of the bike does.

Poor maintenance is not only dangerous but hurts the value of the bike in the long run.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you keep maintaining your bike like that it will fall to pieces or kill you by breaking spectacularly under load whilst you are using it. Poor maintenance is a killer.

NEVER change the chain without changing the front and rear sprockets too. The chain has worn with the sprockets such that they fit together, if you put a new chain on worn sprockets it very well may not fit properly causing it to snap, come off under load or something even worse. Spend the money and replace it all at the same time.

Also, for God's sake lubricate the chain weekly! Look after it and it will look after you. A clean won't hurt either! A clean bike is a happy bike. Wink.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only a brief guide but you may find this useful:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/BIKES/NEWS/motorcycle_maintenance_tips.jsp
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
We all start somewhere mate Thumbs Up

Not a million miles away from me... probably an hour hour n 15 ride from me... ish

If you need some help doing some bits and bobs like that feel free to ride down Thumbs Up


When the chain is sorted I might take you up on that offer, I’ve got about 50+ questions about bike stuff that I need answered, for example; How do I take the back wheel off? What do I clean the bike with? What is this rubber dangly thing and should it be there?

Slacker24seven wrote:
You should be able to check your pressures are within the manufacturers guidelines with a very basic pressure gauge. Over the last 9 months I'm sure they've probably lost some air. At the very least, take it along to a petrol station and use one of their compressors. They are often a few PSI out but it could be better than nothing.

Theres almost certainly an owners forum for your bike. See if you can find it, there are often step-by-step guides on there for how to do things; if not then use the search function as there are almost certainly threads about it. You can probably find the service manual for it there too. If you have no joy with that, search on here for things like 'adjusting chain' and so on.

As for the oil it is meant to be done at specific service intervals, as per your owners manual, in miles/km not months. And its not advisable to just check it, you need to keep it topped up too.

Oh and what tools do you have at your disposal? Things like ring spanners, sockets, screwdrivers? Do you have the bike's original toolkit? Do you have stuff like brake cleaner, chain lube, WD40 and so on?

Individual preferences towards bike maintenance seem to differ quite a bit. For the mileage I do I check the tyres and oil level every week and everything else every month or so. Chain gets lubed once every few hundred miles and properly cleaned once in a blue moon.

Oh and your bike could do with a bloody good clean, that swingarm is filthy. Cleaning it does help you get to know what each bit of the bike does.

Poor maintenance is not only dangerous but hurts the value of the bike in the long run.


The compressors at petrol stations don’t seem to fit they are too long, either that or I’m not doing it right, ill check the tyres tonight.

I’ve managed to download a service manual for the bike so I’m going to have a read through that.

My digital speedometer stopped working about a year after having it and no local engineers can find out what the problem is very frustrating, I’m thinking of replacing it with a normal one but honestly I have no idea where to start.

I will start checking the oil more often about a month ago I smelt something burning checked the engine oil and found it had none in there topped it up with some 4 stoke I got from the local motorbike shop. Every 2 weeks sounds good then.

I have the tools that came with the bike which was f*ck all really, and my computer screw drivers and some WD40 and chain lubricator which has been keeping my chain alive recently. Break cleaner? Didn’t know such a thing existed.

I cleaned it about 3 months ago how often do you think I should clean it? And should I be cleaning the break circle things?

Thanks for the tips everyone and with your patience.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say you check the oil every six months but has it ever had an oil and filter change?

As for the compressors not fitting, you can get 90 degree adaptors for a couple of quid and keep one in your jacket pocket.

If you do get really deperate I'm in Guildford if you need a hand with anything.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
You say you check the oil every six months but has it ever had an oil and filter change?

As for the compressors not fitting, you can get 90 degree adaptors for a couple of quid and keep one in your jacket pocket.

If you do get really deperate I'm in Guildford if you need a hand with anything.


Oil change as in drained? No i don't think it has and i don't know where the filter is so i'm guessing that hasnt been changed either unless the MOT guys did it.

Few other pics below of some questions i have.

https://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2584/img0471az.jpg

Does that rubber thing thats split need replacing?

https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8411/img0472g.jpg

This is my display that never turns on so i have no idea what speed i'm doing or the milage i've been to two seprate dealers none of them could fix it.

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2687/img0473o.jpg

Is the exhaust supposed to look that rusty? and how do i prevent it from rusting?

Sorry about the questions, again thank you for all the replies.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good fucking lord Laughing

Ride down on Sunday... You are going to end up dead... get an oil filter from a dealer and i'll sort an oil change out.. that poor little engine Laughing

If you want you could ride down Saturday and i'll sort it, I've got a bike in a HORRENDOUS state thats been into roundabouts, floors, big mud trenches and generally taped together thats probably safer than that Laughing

Let me know mate...

Honestly.. LOL!
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that bike live outside per chance?

It looks VERY rusty for a 2007 bike, especially a japanese one.

My 04 CBR is left outside and its in far better nick Laughing
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