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DidierD
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Riding without Tax to the Post Office to get Tax. Legal? Reply with quote

Hi All.

Done loads of searching and I know you can ride it to an MOT without it being taxed, true? But my girlfriend has just passed her bike test and wants to ride her Insured & MOT'd bike to the post office to buy the tax disc.

Question is can she do this legally?

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PostPosted: 20:32 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specifically, no it's not legal, but you'd have to run into the worst type of miserable copper who would elect to ticket you on the way to your most local post office whilst carrying the appropriate forms and payment for the tax disc.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Do it online or catch a bus.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

No exemption allowing it so not legal although probably something that she will get away with. Heard stories of people who have been done for stopping to get tax on the way back from an MOT (the rules on travelling to and from an MOT are open to a bit of interpretation as to what is reasonable).

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PostPosted: 20:36 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy online, ride straight away, no queing, job done.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

no.
police will only report to dvla but they do wait outside mot stations to catch you on the way home.
better to walk to post office or tax online.
you can also get done for not displaying tax disc but as i have had it stolen before (and found the culpret and the police did nothing) i leave mine in a safe place.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
buy online, ride straight away, no queing, job done.


Also not technically legal (although again something you will probably get away with).

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:40 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

volvodai wrote:
no.
police will only report to dvla but they do wait outside mot stations to catch you on the way home.
better to walk to post office or tax online.
you can also get done for not displaying tax disc but as i have had it stolen before (and found the culpret and the police did nothing) i leave mine in a safe place.


You can also be fined £200 for not displaying it.

My tax ran out today so payed £35 for a years tax.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies.

The reason she wants to go to posties is because then she gets the disc straight away and you can display it. Even buying on line you can still get bent over and rammed up the brown pipe for not displaying even when you've got confirmation in your pocket! In fairness this would be one massive bell of a cop but still Wink

Looks like it's bus or online Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many moons ago I was stopped for riding to the Post Office on a bike that was insured and MOT`d.
The tax had expired the day before, but I still received a summons five and a half month after the event Evil or Very Mad , even though I was able to produce all of the relevant paperwork at the actual time of the stop.
Ten minutes after I was stopped the bike was wearing it`s new tax disc.

Luckly for me the Magistrate threw it out. "no case to answer" some technicality?
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DidierD wrote:
Cheers for the replies.

The reason she wants to go to posties is because then she gets the disc straight away and you can display it. Even buying on line you can still get bent over and rammed up the brown pipe for not displaying even when you've got confirmation in your pocket! In fairness this would be one massive bell of a cop but still Wink

Looks like it's bus or online Thumbs Up


I'm thinking of the end of the month 5 day grace period thing, or don't you get that if it's previously been sorned?
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it, live life on the wild side!


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PostPosted: 22:17 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:

I'm thinking of the end of the month 5 day grace period thing, or don't you get that if it's previously been sorned?


Only applies if you apply online for the tax before the end of the month the last tax disk expired. So if your tax expired today and you applied online now you would get the 5 days grace. Apply in a couple of hours and it will be next month and the 5 days grace doesn't apply.

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No tax = void insurance.

I spent 2.5hrs driving back from peterborough the other day praying I didn't get nabbed by the Feds as the lady in the post office wouldnt accept a email of insurance purchase as proof of insurance, seems it has to be on paper to be deemed real. So yeah, void insurance will get your hoop a sound flogging in court, so only do it if you've no other option, such as being 80 miles away from home.

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PostPosted: 00:31 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
No tax = void insurance.


I believe you to be wrong there!
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eggs Benedict wrote:
GhostRider wrote:
No tax = void insurance.


I believe you to be wrong there!


I would agree, that can't be right surely. I mean I know we are all bent over these days but even the freakin Gov/Insurance boys can't try that one, can they?
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not taxed, you're not allowed on the road. If you're not allowed on the road when you have an accident, wouldn't that void your insurance? Not fact - just asking.
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense to me that if you are not legally supposed to be on the road, how can your insurance be valid? Same as not having a road worthy vehicle I.e no MOT.

Then you'll get given the old " policeman would have to be very bored". Well policing must be a very dull job then because unless you picked your lips firmly to their arseholes I seriously doubt you'd talk your way out of it " I was gonna get tax officer - honest!".

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PostPosted: 08:49 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got the old disc? If you have, if you do it online, you're old disc is valid till your new one comes in the post so I believe. If the coppers stopped you and did a check just explain Smile
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
If you're not taxed, you're not allowed on the road. If you're not allowed on the road when you have an accident, wouldn't that void your insurance? Not fact - just asking.


Your insurance is not void as it is a vehicles (Excise) offence and therefore even if they try it on in a worst case scenario, they are still obliged to provide the minimum third party cover.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

tk338 wrote:
Have you got the old disc? If you have, if you do it online, you're old disc is valid till your new one comes in the post so I believe. If the coppers stopped you and did a check just explain Smile


Only for 5 days if you apply before the end of the month in which your old disk expired.

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:46 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
tk338 wrote:
Have you got the old disc? If you have, if you do it online, you're old disc is valid till your new one comes in the post so I believe. If the coppers stopped you and did a check just explain Smile


Only for 5 days if you apply before the end of the month in which your old disk expired.

All the best

Keith


I apologise and stand corrected, i will say though if you do buy it while the old disc is still valid, it almost always will arrive within 5 days unless there are some serious problems with the post service Smile
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