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+ Waterproofs
Thermal blankets
Small first aid kit
Scalpel blades.
Selection of airways.
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| Posted: 12:40 - 05 Sep 2011 Post subject: Re: Kit carried |
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| redsetta wrote: | Hey folks; now the commute is starting to get dark in the morning it might be time to plan ahead, I was wondering what you would consider essential kit that you carry all the time... |
Essential for what? Breakdown, or accident?
Old words of wisdom but
PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE
Awful lot of breakdown situations can be entirely avoided by simple, basic maintenence, and can for the most part eliminate nearly all 'silly little' faults that you might be able to fix, road side with simple tools.
Anything much more seriouse than a blown fuse or bulb, probably not going to be road-side repairable anyway, and its a case of recovery to home or workshop.
WHICH these days, is actually probably the more 'sensible' option, anyway. Roads are too busy, to be trying to do mechanics with 45 ton artics wistling by.
SO; top of the list; mobile telephone... and the number of a recovery service..... in Snowie's case that would be ME... in my case, that would be Snowie! But there is the old recovery by Mum, Dad, other freind or relative, or failing all, the commercial recovery services, for which you can get recovery insurance.
Accidents are slightly harder to avoid through preparation......But it can help!
STUPID STUFF..... giving yourself time in the morning to get ready, so you CAN get the bike warmed up and 'off' choke before you ride away, and have time for your journey, dont have to rush, or take unnecessary risks...... Time to pick your time of travel to avoid worst conjection, Time to pick alternative route, to avoid congestion, hazards or hassle. 'Rushing' is a fast way to hurt yourself on a motorbike......
But; three layers of protection; PRIMARY: Hazard Awareness & Avoidance.... see danger, dont go there; SECONDARY; Hazard Avasion; In Danger, get the fuck out of it! Brake Steer, MOVE, DEAL with the situation you failed to avoid! TERSIARY: Oh Fuck This Gonna Hurt! Helmet, Gloves, Protective Gear..... 'At least it aint gonna hurt AS much!"
Basic mantenence; checking your tyres, your brakes, your steering...... can do an AWFUL LOT to help 'Avaid' an accident when you need to do something to get your arse out of danger!
TIME spent on basic maintenence, then is time well spent.
Training, and advanced training & techniques, to help give you the tools to spot hazards and not go near them, or control a bike and get out of them.... is 'precaution' you can use against even having an accident, and 'maintenence'....
Works on you as well as the bike!
If you are tired, or not awake, groggy, feeling 'blugh! or not at your best? If you aren't alert, then you wont spot hazard, in time; if you are slow, or in pain, or uncomfortable, react to them.
And refresher taining is no bad thing; learn something new, freshen up old skills, keep them sharp.
So, had an accident, all has failed.... what you going to do? Well, anything more seriouse than a slow speed tumble, and like changing bike fuse or bulb, you aren't going to be able to fix yourself at the side of the road!
Mobile Phone!
And actually, after a spill, chances are even if you aren't hurt, you will be 'pumped' and or in some degree of 'shock'.... TIME... sit down, have fag, DONT try and fix bike; dont try and get back on... CHILL, get your composure back!
Fags and a lighter, If you smoke, and suggestion of baccy & lighter suggests you do.... but I dont tend to carry 'spares'... baccky goes stale!
(25 years owning my Montesa Trials Bike; only 'mod' I have done to it for competition, is to cut a sandwhich box to fit on the forks where the headlamp would be if it was a road bike, instead of the plastic 'Rider Number' plate that normally sits there.... which is now on the lid of the sandwqhich box...... this is to take a can of energy drink, and baccky tin, with half a dozen fags in it and lighter...... Box is water-proof, and resiliant to impact, and far less likely to be crushed than my pocket.... and baccky tin ditto, just in case lid comes off or something! a notion I had after falling off a hill, into a very BIG puddle... and discovering that the soggy mush in my pocket was my LAST pack of fags! Half a dozen; because four hour event, usually five laps; one per lap and one spare! - Energy drink, in there is because, in competition, four four hours of more, its a HELL of a physical work-out; and on one trial... I actually wont class in, thinking about it! I actually suffered severe de-hydration!
Think it was event this pic was taken on actually!
https://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/montesa-trials/02_MyTrials/dsci0522.jpg
Horendouse event.. Yes I'm falling off.... did that a LOT {more than usual some would say!} on that event, due to heat and fatigue, and the course being a real 'killa'.... it was a trial of endurance, as much as skill, NO-ONE was gaining 'Clear' scores, and worrying about 'Dabs'!
Dehydration kicked in as soon as I completed the last section, after which I FELL off the bike, when I stopped, and went into rictus muscle spasms! But ANYWAY!)
| redsetta wrote: | So far I have:
1 can of tyre weld
Wind up torch
Multi-tool thingy
cash, tobacco, papers and a lighter in a waterproof bag |
Tyre weld only works on tubless tyres..... worth noting if you ride older or lightweight bike with tubes in them! Had a can cable tied to the pannier rack of my VF-Though, but never had to use it, thankfully. Was never 'happy' with the idea of using the stuff on a bike; especially very big, very heavy, very powerful one... and tyre fitters don't like it much...
Only bike I have suffered on road punctures on was my AR125 when I was at Uni, and had about three in close succession; one was forty miles from anywhere, and I just called the AA!
Call operator, said, they didn't come out to fix flat tyres, I ought to have a serviceable 'spare wheel'....... I pondered this reponse a moment, and decided to play along with it..... "OK, so where would I I find that? It's a brand new Motorbike dealer never said anything about a spare wheel?"
"They are usually in the boot, or some-times under the bonnet" She offered helpfully......
"Ah! Right, that explains it. I dont HAVE a 'boot'..... its a Motorbike"
"Well have you looked under the bonnet?"
"No..... it doesn't have one of them, either.... its a Mo-Tor-Bike"
"Well they MUST have a spare wheel SOMEWHERE!" She insisted......"BIKE, you say?" a penny dropping some-where; "Well isn't it like a bicycle, isn't there a little kit with patches in and glue, you should use for that?"
Eventually they sent out a recovery waggon and took me to dealers!
Other two, whipped wheel out with (OE) underseat tool kit; one my land-lord ran me accross town to get it fixed at dealers; other I hopped on a bus!
Wind-Up Torch; Got one of them in Snowie's tail locker; useful for finding key-holes in the dark.... unfortunately you need to find the key-hole for the seat lock FIRST! But useful if a fuse blows.
Multi-Tool thingie; yup she has one of them too.... though how much you can do with it is pretty limited. CABLE TIES can be useful, and insulation tape, for the odd improvised repair.
Baccy we have covered; CASH... yes, a £20 note somewhere incase you do that inevitable fuck up, and leave the petrol tap on reserve when you fill up, and run out of petrol...... or any other eventuality!
Ultimately, though, how much COULD you do at the side of the road? How much would you WANT to do at the side of the road?
They reckon that the old Enfield Bullet, can be stripped and rebuilt at the side of the road with the factory tool kit....... but would you know how? And even if you DID, would you really want to?
A LOT is down to bike, and personaly choice.... rest down to common sense and keeping your wits about you, and remembering prevention is better than cure!
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Fully working bike, RAC breakdown cover and fully charged mobile phone with 3G/Wifi (for some reason can always get 3G even with no phone signal), money, Oyster card. If bike is not in decent/good condition I'm not going more than 10-15miles from home 
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| Posted: 17:30 - 05 Sep 2011 Post subject: Re: Kit carried |
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Just seen Tef's response....
| Teflon-Mike wrote: | ...... three layers of protection; PRIMARY: Hazard Awareness & Avoidance.... see danger, dont go there; SECONDARY; Hazard Avasion; In Danger, get the fuck out of it! Brake Steer, MOVE, DEAL with the situation you failed to avoid! TERSIARY: Oh Fuck This Gonna Hurt! Helmet, Gloves, Protective Gear..... 'At least it aint gonna hurt AS much!"
Basic mantenence; checking your tyres, your brakes, your steering...... can do an AWFUL LOT to help 'Avaid' an accident when you need to do something to get your arse out of danger!
TIME spent on basic maintenence, then is time well spent.
Training, and advanced training & techniques, to help give you the tools to spot hazards and not go near them, or control a bike and get out of them.... is 'precaution' you can use against even having an accident, and 'maintenence'....
Works on you as well as the bike!
If you are tired, or not awake, groggy, feeling 'blugh! or not at your best? If you aren't alert, then you wont spot hazard, in time; if you are slow, or in pain, or uncomfortable, react to them.
And refresher taining is no bad thing; learn something new, freshen up old skills, keep them sharp. |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | ....Only bike I have suffered on road punctures on was my AR125 when I was at Uni, and had about three in close succession; one was forty miles from anywhere, and I just called the AA!
Call operator, said, they didn't come out to fix flat tyres, I ought to have a serviceable 'spare wheel'....... I pondered this reponse a moment, and decided to play along with it..... "OK, so where would I I find that? It's a brand new Motorbike dealer never said anything about a spare wheel?"
"They are usually in the boot, or some-times under the bonnet" She offered helpfully......
"Ah! Right, that explains it. I dont HAVE a 'boot'..... its a Motorbike"
"Well have you looked under the bonnet?"
"No..... it doesn't have one of them, either.... its a Mo-Tor-Bike"
"Well they MUST have a spare wheel SOMEWHERE!" She insisted......"BIKE, you say?" a penny dropping some-where; "Well isn't it like a bicycle, isn't there a little kit with patches in and glue, you should use for that?"
Eventually they sent out a recovery waggon and took me to dealers! |
Talk about reading from a script. Hilarious! 
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| Posted: 22:10 - 08 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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on the bike i have the original tool kit and a spare spark plug.
in the rucksack i have a proper puncture repair kit  a small adjustable spanner and a multihead screwdriver.
of course never leave home without my mobile phone.
definately going to add a torch to the list now winter is ariving 
will have to find somewhere to put a spare headlight bulb too really  |
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