More 125 - 250cc options!

[Andy J]

I think it's a shame there aren't many cool 125cc bikes, and even fewer 250cc bikes. I bought a Yamaha R125 which I've had a for about 6 months now and loved every second of it, but moving up to 250cc I'm left with even fewer options.

When I bought the Yam the only other bike that appealed to me was the rs 125, but I didn't want an Italian 2 stroke, and the CBR in my opinion looked like a bicycle. (Although fair play it is an excellent learner bike)

In terms of 250cc bikes the new Ninja looks great and has amazing reviews, and Honda's now competed and bought out the CBR 250 - Which doesn't look half as good and review wise isn't too great at all. So for 33BHP sport bikes that leaves practically the ninja and that's it!

I know I can get bikes restricted but I don't particualary want too, the insurance companies don't take into consideration it's been restricted and call me fussy but all the bikes I'd want are 600's (and no there not just sport bikes!, I'd be quite happy with street hybrids etc.)

the R125 broke a lot of sales records, and the same year kawasaki bought out the new ninja 250 back in 2008, aprilia have also recently started producing the 4 stroke rsv125.

Things are starting to pick up, but I still think things are dry though on this lower end of the power scale for attractive choices.

Where are all the attractive bikes made for 33BHP

[Livefast123]

Hyosung GT250R

Same size as 600 - Easily good for 100 Mph - 80 Mpg - Build quality up there with Kawasaki - Sorted
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[cb1rocket]

Consider 400cc bikes like the Honda CB1, Bros, CBR400RR, CB400SF. Suzuki Bandit 400 etc sorry I'm a bit of a Honda lover.

There is also the new CBR250R but its a single cylinder at 28bhp and rated rather bland and boring but the quality and reliability is there

[Blau Zedong]

33bhp is 33bhp. The only way to make it lulzy is to make it 2T, which thanks to ecofags can't happen anymore.

It's not like the 250cc market is competitive, most people do direct access or go for a restricted bike rather than spend stupid money on a boring 250 which is of zero use whatsoever at the end of the 2 year restriction period other than draining all it's victims spare cash in depreciation when the time comes to swop it for something that's not complete shit.

TL:DR - it's not the 70's anymore and there is no reason for the manufacturers to spunk loads of R&D cash making 250's.
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[Livefast123]

The 250 class is about as alive as a T- Rex.......but it's still of use to us boring fuc*ers who want a 80 Mpg commuter that can easily do motorway speeds
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[L-Jam]

Though I do agree with your point, if you've got a full bike licence either get a 500 and don't restrict it and learn, or get a Hornet and don't restrict it because the police don't fucking care.
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[Andy J]

I dunno, I'd have to disagree with you guys in some respects. I don't think 250 sport bikes are boring, a 250YBR fuck yes, but 0-60 in just under 6 secs - Doubling my current power would keep me entertained and then some for 2-3 years.

Plus I like the idea of slowy moving up the food chain.. I don't want get a bike restricted. I know during those 2 years I'll get it removed, It would annoy me to think it's there and not being used.

Plus if you are a good boy or girl, once those 2 years are up you can de-restrict it and experience more power but from the same bike, not as exciting as getting the new sense of power with a new bike I think.

Give ya a greater experience and more motivation to get a new motor.

[L-Jam]

Guess your only real option is to get a 250 ninja then, a great bike from what I've heard.
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[Frost]

[KingKong]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Rogerborg]

There are somewhere in the region of 11,500 restricted 25kW license holders around at any given time.

Subtract the number that will get restricted Big Boy Bikes, plus those who will just ride Big Boy Bikes unrestricted, and a few more who knock it on the head altogether before they come off their restriction, and you can see that the market for 25kW bikes is very small indeed.

Add to that the insane prices being asked for them new - you can get an SV650S with a free restrictor for less than a Ninja 250 at the moment - and I'm amazed that there are any still being sold.

[KingKong]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Dan_Davies]

[Biker Alex]

[blurredman]

There's no real use to use a 250cc unless you're looking for a cheap but not powerless motor.

I think there would be more people interested in 250 if the tax class wasn't so damn wide.

ie. Why get a 250 when you can tax a 400 for the same amount?
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Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.

[rac3r]

There will be more 250's soon I think due to the new test thingy and the introduction of the Moto 1 class instead of 125's as a support for MotoGP which will be 250cc 4 strokes. Yes I know there will be no connection BUT it helps the marketing side
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[MarJay]

The only sort of 250 I'd ever want is a two stroke 250. I quite fancy a GT250 X7 at the moment, but I don't think it meets the 33bhp requirement!
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[Moxey]

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[Rogerborg]

[G]

So, what you're asking for is more Fiesta's that look like Ferarri's?

As can be seen from the hideous price of bikes like the R125 that manage a similar performance to a cb125T of twenty years ago, you do pay for this and so the market is more limited than you might think - basically rich people with some money to burn.

250s even more so, as there's little reason to choose say the 250 comet over a restricted 650/500 from what I can see. (At least the 'ninja' and CBR are both a fair bit lighter and smaller, I believe.)

[Blau Zedong]

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