What Security?

[Efes123]

Hi All,

Just passed my Mod 2 yesterday, and now looking for something to keep my new bike safe. I have a Honda VT500E (waiting for the "Who'll bother stealing that" comments).

Due to Honda's brilliant innovation, it has an enclosed front disc, so that rules out all the nice disc locks. I don't particularly want to spend a huge amount, it's already cost a lot this month.

Ideas on a postcard, and thanks in advance.
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[Pol Anorl]

Who will bother stealing that?

You should see my security!

Its called aviva.
and a steering lock.

Although for the lolz of it.. i saw a yamaha ybr125 in tesco erlier, parked outside a fire door in full view of the shop, at around 10am, in full view of a camera.. with the steering lock on, a massive oxford chain and a disk lock..

I mean seriously.. thats taking it too far!
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[Dazbo666]

A chain thru the back wheel, and over the seat?? A VERY visible deterrant
also consider including a ground anchor if you have a garage etc

It all depends very much on your circumstances, and your budget
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[Pol Anorl]

[P.]

[trikeschick]

I have an Oxford chain and bought a ground anchor kit, which isl inside the garage. The garage is in the garden and I have a bad tempered dobermann bitch and grumpy husband who barks at everything.

Oh and I have a steering lock too. For out and about I have an easier to carry chain and padlock which I put on the bike. Not that I am paranoid of course

PS - congrats on the pass
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[sickpup]

[Efes123]

Thanks for all the advice.

[Efes123]

[Clanger]

General rule of thumb, everything you can afford. Including electric fence, big dog with big teeth... unfortunately if a thief wants your bike that badly, they will take it (it's the type of item they can pick up and put in the back of a van).

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Keep it out of view when at home or use a bike cover. Shiny things attract.
Bit of a faff, but something i'd consider doing if i had to commute...take a lightweight bike cover. Takes up the space of some waterproofs.
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[B8zza]

I have been looking at bike alarms on eBay and there seems to be a few cheap options worth trying for a few quid, won't change the insurance or the like unless you go to a dedicated shop and get an approved alarm fitted and certificate...
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[Efes123]

Thanks for all the advice. I quite like the look of the Cyclone on eBay, anyone had experience of these?
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[raak]

Efes123....i think you may have meant this

Not tried it myself tho' tempted

Me..... i go with a Disc lock, when out and about
And a Chain thru rear wheel wrapped over seat & disc lock overnight

could also try Alarm IF its connected properly
(have heard some stories about draining battery)
And a Cover to stop the thieving magpies.

But as many say, its all a palalver and IF they really want it...well

but anything that makes it harder ( and longer ) to steal it is a good idea
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[andy_uk]

I got the Cyclone C-11 (or what ever the earlier version was called) as it was designed for 2 strokes and it was extremely simple to fit. Doesn't appear to put any noticeable drain on the battery.
As B8zza said, most alarms won't give you any insurance premium reduction unless they're on "the list" and fitted by an approved fitter.
Having said that, they do give peace of mind. Especially if (like me) you have to keep your bike outside due to lack of garage etc...
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[0ddball]

The whole "if they want it they will have it" really gripes me. It stinks of giving up without trying and helplessness.

If they want to rob your house they will, so might as well not lock the doors.

If someone wants to rape you they will so just lay back and accept it.
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[Ingah]

I used to Almax my CG125 through the frame to an immovable object whenever i went anywhere. It was my only bike at the time.

That alone is enough to prevent low-value bikes being stolen*

However, it's much more hassle than just using a U-lock / disc lock, and an alarm. However, bike not locked to anything = bike easily stolen.

Physical security does nothing to prevent vandalism/theft of parts. So for both of those, a cheap alarm helps (and tagging helps with the latter). The cyclone alarms are the right sort of thing at the right sort of price, easily disabled and so unlikely to cause you any grief. £300+ alarm systems are a waste of money.

* = Let's please ignore the extreme examples when this won't be the case.
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[kawakid]

Best security is not to leave your bike outside, you need a shed or a garage.

Then I would recommend a ground anchor and a chain.

When you have a bit more money, I would recommend a garage alarm and a digital baby monitor.

Don't advertise the fact you have a bike. Don't advertise the fact your garage has security, ie those garage door defender things, just says to a thief, there's something nice in here.

What most of us tend to do is to have lots of chains on our bikes. I've got 2 ground anchors and about 7 chains. I have a disk lock on all disks.

I also have the luxury of a long garage, so the car is immediately behind the bikes.

Don't make it easy for the bastards, make it hard.
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[Moo.]

I just use as much as i can

If im out and about, i use a chain, armoured cable lock and an alarmed xena disk lock.

When parking it for the night, 2 chains, armourer cable lock, xena double locking disk lock and the alarmed disk lock bit overkill for a £250 Superdream
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[sprite]

I have a Xena alarmed disc lock that I use when it's at home (in a secure underground car park) and at work (where it's in view of colleagues all the time).

I also got a cable lock with the Xena but I'm not sure how good it is- the disc lock basically "completes" the cable for out and about... I've not taken the bike anywhere else yet though.

[0ddball]

[Efes123]