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Chriss
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Dog Dental Care Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm curious what people use for their pooches dental hygiene and dental care. Particularly interested in toothpastes. What products have you tried and what work?

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PostPosted: 17:03 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toothpaste?

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PostPosted: 17:11 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
Toothpaste?

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Yeah. Our dogs teeth are starting to look a little used. Vet recommended:

Arrow A proper, involving de-scaling etc, teeth clean at £270 approximately.
Arrow Dog tooth brush and tooth paste
Arrow Chews/Raw hide/Denta-Sticks

They did say there's mouthwash out now, but they hadn't personally looked into it so couldn't recommend any.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use colgate on my dogs teeth, always have. Years ago i had a staff and the vet checked his teeth and asked what i used and i told him he said well if he is letting you that's fine and its working. Never did my dogs any harm.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Chalky. wrote:
Toothpaste?

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Yeah. Our dogs teeth are starting to look a little used. Vet recommended:

Arrow A proper, involving de-scaling etc, teeth clean at £270 approximately.
Arrow Dog tooth brush and tooth paste
Arrow Chews/Raw hide/Denta-Sticks

They did say there's mouthwash out now, but they hadn't personally looked into it so couldn't recommend any.


Jesus.

Never done anything with any of ours, most are working dogs though. I have bought them those chewy dentasticks if I see them about, but not often.

Not done them any harm.

Perhaps the rabbits they chew on when they catch them help Laughing

I hope the vet's not trying to make money out of you.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I wonder what the dogs' ancestors used... Doubt it was eitehr Colgate or Pepsodent... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 19:25 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Hmm, I wonder what the dogs' ancestors used... Doubt it was eitehr Colgate or Pepsodent... Rolling Eyes

Honestly, sometimes I just despair.


All human's ancestors' teeth rotted and fell out, does that mean I should let mine?
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Vet recommended:

Arrow A proper, involving de-scaling etc, teeth clean at £270


Fucking bet he did Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually recommend logic gel and brushing. Start by rubbing it on with a finger and work up to a brush. It's the bit where the tooth meets the gum you're trying to get mostly. The logic gel tastes good for the dog and has some enzymes in it that help dissolve the tartar.

@ Paivi. Dogs used to clean their teeth by eating whole dead animals, including the hair, skin and bones. They clearly don't eat this now on the whole so their teeth don't get as much mechanical cleaning as they would in nature. We have also bred dogs to have odd shaped mouths so there are odd gaps in their teeth that a wild dog wouldn't have.
Classic example. Boxer dog:
https://www.skullsite.co.uk/Boxer/boxer_lat.jpg

Compare this to a German Shepherd which is pretty close to a "normal" dog-shaped skull.
https://www.skullsite.co.uk/Alsatian/alsatian_lat.jpg

So we've bred them to be an odd shape and we feed them an unnatural diet. Part of the bargain is we help them cope with the consequences.

Some dogs have more problems than others, just as some people are more prone to dental and gum disease than others.

Greyhounds and lurchers are some of the worst. I often have to pull all a greyhounds teeth out they get such bad gum disease. I think it's because they delicately pick at their food instead of chomping down on it and tend not to chew at things.

Another thing I sometimes recommend for problem dogs is feeding them Hills TD diet which is made in big lumps that they have to chew at to get down.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldnt need to do anything with their teeth provided they have chewy things! What sort of dog?
What food are they fed on? A dry diet is a fuckload better for them than the wet. Teeth, digestion, skin+coat, allergies, breath etc etc

Rawhide is good and is cheap, a smallish rawhide treat every other would be fine, provided its not too small that they try to swallow it whole.
Even just a good solid treat would help clean their teeth up. Dont bother with the named brand you see on telly. Bakers / Pedigree etc are a pile of wank juice and additives.
Even cheaper, hit up the local buthers for a doggy bone. It'll keep them quiet for hours and sort most of the rubbish on their teeth.

If the dog is young it will get used to having its teeth cleaned very quickly. An older dog though will just get fucked off with you ramming things in it mouth.

Dont spend 270 on getting them done. You can do just as much good by spending a couple of quid on some treats for him.

Hope some of that helps. I used to work in pet retailing Wink
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our old girl..Wenlock (bless her beautiful soul) had gnashers to be proud of.

Dry food....a bone every month or so and rope toys. Dentistix when we're flush.

Sweep(the black welsh nazi) also has perfect teeth, surprising as she has robbed more sweets and chocs than a chav's toddler.


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PostPosted: 23:52 - 14 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martay wrote:


Dont spend 270 on getting them done. You can do just as much good by spending a couple of quid on some treats for him.


I wouldn't necessarily agree on this one.

Sometimes the degree of tartar build up and gum disease gets to a point where they need to be properly scaled and polished with a sub-gingival scale and any periodontal pockets resected/polished/flushed and any odd anatomical problems dealt with. You also often find if they are getting bad, a tooth has fully abcessed or gingival pockets are so deep an outwardly normal tooth needs removing.

A full dental under GA puts them back into a state where they can be maintained using less intrusive means. It's what your dentist would be doing on a routine visit but dogs won't sit still with their mouth open so they have to be anaesthetised to do it properly.

Maybe at the worse end of the scale but I see teeth like this on a dog at least once a month. A chewy bone is not going to sort this out. Doing a scale and polish two or three years sooner then instigating a brushing routine would have prevented this dog having to have all its teeth pulled out.
https://www.aileashelties.com/images/teeth-diseased.jpg

£270 seems a hell of a lot for a GA with routine scale and polish but it's your own fault for living in London. Anywhere else in the country and you could knock £100+ off that.
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PostPosted: 05:57 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks for the advice all. Our two greyhounds do get dry food. The problem is they do tend to just wolf it down. I genuinely don't feel that our vet is seeing us as a cash cow since they've delayed doing the teeth for a while and has recommended just one of our dogs get their teeth done.

Martay, when you say doggy bone, what do you mean? Just any old bone? Being a vegetarian, I don't often visit butchers. Laughing

Stinkwheel, I'll be on the hunt today for some food they actually have to chew on and some logic gel.

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£270 seems a hell of a lot for a GA with routine scale and polish but it's your own fault for living in London. Anywhere else in the country and you could knock £100+ off that.

I hold the MOD responsible, especially since they abolished 'London pay'. All the vets fees were cheaper in Moray. Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:28 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06:57 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feed them bones they like, when there hungry. Mine get bones every week, and on that day are often not really fed either.

The bones soon get used more when their hungry. Job done, if they present with teeth issues after eating bones weekly then vets it is. Rolling Eyes Idea

Regular expection of gums and teeth is a must of course.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Martay wrote:


Dont spend 270 on getting them done. You can do just as much good by spending a couple of quid on some treats for him.


I wouldn't necessarily agree on this one. *pics*
etc


Oh i agree with you there, but id hope that is really un-common. But also, if the vet suggested trying the tooth brush method first, i highly doubt the OP pooch is in that state. If you have let you dogs teeth get like that photo, then yes you should spend on getting them sorted.

If they are scoffing their food down really quickly without chewing it or thinking, try popping a couple of tennis balls in their bowls on top of the food. I found this slowed my lab's eating habbits.

Bone: Just ask him for a bone for your dog. Tell him what sort of dog you have so he doest go too overboard with the size. It wont be the first time he's been asked for one!
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our greyhounds are of course non chewers, we tried some stuff called petzlife, it is expensive (£20) but seems to last a while and it works! Got it online it comes from the states, they also do a version for people!
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 15 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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