Charity

[Wave2k]

After recently being bombarded by a particular person on facebook for donating cash, i find my myself being more and more annoyed by charity bombardment.

At your door
on TV
in Person
On the internet

Most of the time there is a guilt trip involved.

But what angers me the most, is why people want your money to do something for 'charity' , that i would pay to do myself for pleasure.

Bungee jumps (have actually paid to do 5)
Cycling wall of china
Skydiving

Im sure a fairly large amount of your donation is going to the running of these events and only a small amount actually goes to the charity.

Im not against giving money for a good cause, but i am against paying some asshole to do something id pay to do for pleasure in the name of a small amount of it going to a charity.


/rant over
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[N cee thirty]

some of these adverts on tv are like 2 mins long,how much is that costing?!?

bloody greed
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[SoND]

Don't answer your door.
Don't watch TV.
Don't speak to people.
Don't use the internet.

Problem solved.
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[Wave2k]

Can someone sponsor me so i can ride round the world on a motorbike.



"its for a good cause"

0.5% will go to a good cause, the rest will go on my selfish pleasurable adventure round the world
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[Louise]

All these TV adverts to 3rd world ect do make me sad.
But.... We do have our own problems in the UK....
If, and IF I play apart in anything, it would be to the NSPCC at the most.
I get fed up of being collard by people rasing money for the 3rd world people in the high street. Bores me & I tell them where the money should be really spent.
Get so pissed off that the 'UK' has raise 'X ammount of millions for 'X' country.... Erm, maybe put that X-ammount to 'our' country first; I do get a bit arate with them & I voice my opinion too.
Please, sort your own country out before helping others.
I dont see no other country doing a 'Children in need' for the UK ect ect.
Help your own, before you help anyone else!

[Villers]

Those africa charity adverts are full of shit anyway, £2.50 a month for water for a village? Im changing to that tarrif cos united utilities sting me for 30 odd quid!

Seriously though, seeing multi millionaires like bono asking for my hard earned makes me sick, as does 'pay for my trip please....'
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[Kwaks]

charities are big business. take the ms society as an example, each ms sufferer is worth 48k per year in drug costs to maintain the condition, so half million on the life expectancy for most.

or spend about 3k on ccvti operation and effectively stop the progression of the condition in 95 % of cases.

Wonder why the board of directors of ms society who earn >200k dont recommend this treatment.
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[Al]

I only really donate to a small local animal rescue place. They seem to do a good job of looking after and re-homing the animals and I like animals.
It would probably offend the people collecting but I don't like children and I went to Morocco once and dislike Africans, not that I'm one to generalize or anything.
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[Louise]

[Louise]

[fatpies]

Christ you should see how many tandem skydivers are paid for by 'charities' A tandem skydive costs £155 + £20 from say 14000ft.

A particular drop zone I used to jump at had loads of people raising about £200 'for charity' and doing this 'for charity' The DZ loves it as it makes them masses of money.

£35 to the Tandem instructor.
£20 to the BPA
£4 to the packer.

£59 cost nearly £100 profit to the DZ.

There are exceptions, this woman was raising money for her son's operation in the USA and the dropzone paid for the jump.

I'd note there are a bucket load of fake charities out there... some you don't even think are fake. Bernardos for instance.

https://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/02/fake-charities-barnardos.html

It recieves money out of your taxes = ergo fake charity.

Or Age concern

The Department of Health: £1,211,000
The Department for Work & Pensions: £64,000
The Department for Trade and Industry: £118,000
The Department for International Development: £127,000
The Big Lottery Fund: £3,146,000
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Total £4,666,000 (38.5% of all ‘voluntary income’)

And a boss which rakes home £120K a year
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[fatpies]

Note Fatpies is available to BASE jump for charity.

Costs taken out of donations £2..... for some new underwear
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[Frost]

The admin overheads on charities are obscene. With most of them 98% of what you give goes to the charity, 2% goes to the actual cause. I knew a guy whose job it was to take rich people and business owners to lunch at fancy places (paid for by the charity) and try to convince them to give money. He got paid 40k a year to do this. So when you give money to a charity you're probably paying someones massive wages along with buying them lunch too.

Street fund raisers are the ones that piss me off the most. They jump out in your way and do everything they can to get you to talk to them and try to make you feel rude in ignoring them. A mate gives to amnesty every month, but an amnesty street fund raiser told him to his face he was a liar when he said that to one of them. So the money he's paying to the cause is actually paying some bloke to start on the street hassling people and calling him a liar. Fuck that.

Appeals for people in India piss me off no end. Yes they're poor and suffering, but their government is building aircraft carriers and pursuing a manned space program, stuff we could never dream of affording! We've had riots in this country over far less.

[.....]

I actually wrote to my MP the other day about the 'Chuggers' in the High St. She agreed it's a problem but there's little that can be done about them.

[Mondeo Man]

I used to work as a fundraiser - didn't give too much care for the charity. Just tried to break targets so that I could get freebies for doing so. Do I feel bad? No, it was a job. It paid me well. We had lots of techniques to persuade ppl: eg you essentially ask "how much do you want to donate" rather than " would you like to donate".

You would be amazed how easy it is to talk most people into donating to charities they had no interest in until you knocked on the door. Most people think they are savvy, and only suckers fall for it, most people are not, and can be persuaded.

Charities are businesses. There is a law, it's called the "iron law of oligarchy".

Basically, after a certain point, charities become about their own self perpetuation. They start off, perhaps, as genuine vehicles for change but the more success they have, the bigger they become, and the more they need to raise to support their infrastructure. This is why charities like Cancer Research are perpetually raising funds - "we have a target of 10 million for XyZ" - it's achieved. We have a taret for 20 million, for ABC. "Hang on a minute, what happened to XYZ?". Never does this get asked - they just keep on banking,year after year. In fact, the bigger the charity, the less they have to give a reason for fundraising. They don't even need to say "we need it for x". Only "we need it"

Do you think cancer research, for example, really wants a cure for cancer? What happens then to its £100m + national infrastruture? "Oh, drat, some kid's found found the cure! Okay. we're done here. Pull down the shutters. It's good night from us!"


A few pointers:

1) There are so many charities. For every disease, there are 20 + charities. Why? If they are so concerned with solutions, why not share resources and knowledge? Becuase they are competing businesses, that's why.

2). Why don't charities ever really focus on prevention - when was the last time cancer research uk prioritised known info about diet and cancer? Never. There's no money in the message "eat your greens!" (unless Cancer Research started selling veg!). Charities invaribly focus on mythical cures.

3). I know you might be upset that your girlfriend died falling off a swing. You do not, however, need to set up a charity to raise awareness of swing safety. Your personal tragedy is not an excuse for yet another fucking charity...

4) Can't stand personal fundraisers. I'd love to go round the world on a bike. However, I'd actually feel guilty expecting others to cover the costs by hoaxing them into thinking it's for charity!

5) Many charities are genuine. Small charities. Local charities.

6) Give time, not money. This is how to measure a genuine charity. Try to volunteer for some of the big charitiies. Stragely, they have very limited opportunities. What they want is your bank details, not hands on help.

7) Why are there no charities for the regular joe? I've always said, if I win big on the lotto, like 10m plus, I would set up a charity to help regular joes - those living lies of "quiet desparation" - offering grants for, say, guitar lessons, or covering college fees.

[fatpies]

[lukas222]

[neatbik]

Totally agree with the comments regarding sponsoring people to to something they would do anyway (if they had the funds themselves).

I intend to do something at some point to help out kids, i remember seeing footage of the orphanages in Romania, and those little guys could do with a helping hand. Fuck knows how though...

Anyway, my point is that if i do ask people to sponsor me i would make sure that whatever they were sponsoring me to do would be something that i hated to do.

Wether it be something shit the bed scary or just plain humiliating, either way they would get their moneys worth.

[Kickstart]

Hi

I don't really go along with the idea that the UK problems should be fixed first. The scale of the respective problems should come into it.

I do have a (fairly suppressed) issue with charity workers making serious money from donated money.

All the best

Keith
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[bikertomm]

lol,

https://www.fuck-charity.com/Fuck_Charity_Home.html


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[JP7]

I have always been one for giving my time to a charity rather than my money. My time doesn't get wasted, my money often would be. I currently sit as a director on the board of trustees of a charity, and it is nice to have a direct impact on its activities.

I always remember my mum telling me that one day she went past the local Cancer Research shop, and it was having a full and expensive looking refit. I do think that less money needs to go into advertising and branding, and more into actual charitable activities.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Bike related, and ouch:-

https://fakecharities.org/2009/02/charity-1108448/

Living Streets (formerly the Pedestrians Association), a charity which mainly seems to exist to make life difficult for other road users. They got £438,213 from the tax payer.

All the best

Keith
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Some random woman stopped me in the street today and started telling me a joke. It had all the ingredients of a good joke: child abuse; incestual rape; tears and suffering; but I didn't understand the punchline. Something about £2 a month?




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