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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: GSXR400 Gk73A Project Photo Heavy Reply with quote

My bike has now been delivered so i am going to slowly strip down the bike and rebuild it back up and with any luck it will work by next summer, the bike currently doesnt work and i have no knowledge about this sort of thing, i know its a difficult bike to start with and might be difficult for parts but i have my manual and hopefully i wont come across anything to serious i cant fix myself.


https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ15QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0283.jpg

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This is the bike as i recived it

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ11QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0287.jpg

And a few extra bits that have come with it

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ10QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0288.jpg

I have a few hours so i am going to begin to strip it down, any advice or help is welcome, thanks, i have never attacthed a picture before so hopefully this will work


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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have started to stip down the bike now, of fairings, fuel tank, there are a few loose pipes and connections over the place but im sure these can just be replaced and i will find out what need to go where once ive stripped it down completley and start to rebuild it back up, here are some more pictures

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ8QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0290.jpg

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ7QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0291.jpg

Loose connections

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ5QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0293.jpg

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ4QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0294.jpg

Loose Pipes

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ3QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0295.jpg

Bike So Far

https://s1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/?action=view¤t=IMG_0297.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn527%2Fchaslam07%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_0297.jpg

sorry for the low quality pictures, lighting isnt to good and using my phone, i am just about to order some paddock stands and some lighting.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0290.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put IMG tags round your picture links, very few people can be bothered to click multiple links.



{img}you link here{/img}

Except use [] instead of {}.

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

serlant wrote:


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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 19 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, il try and make all following pictures like this
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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 22 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a quick hour so contiuned stripping it down, hopefully my stands will of arrived tomorrow and i get can really stuck into it, im hoping to get alot done tomorrow as im off work,

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/Progress/IMG_0303.jpg

Ive taken the bracket of the back and the seat, both took a bit of working out as there both connected by latches you pull and they release the pin.

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/Progress/IMG_0304.jpg

I then started to dissmantle the electics and will hopefully be taking all the back of tomorrow


https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/Progress/IMG_0305.jpg

I then started to take the headlight off and start to strip down the front

Thanks for showing me how to load pictures, now i can carry on and hopefully make a good thread that other people can follow if they are doing the same, i think my stands have arrived at my mums so hoping for a productive day tomorrow and getting alot stripped down


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PostPosted: 19:31 - 22 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

great project here - keep going !
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 22 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok to paste the image straight in here, when you click on the link if you look to the right theres 3 options, direct link, html code and img, if you click on the url in the img one it will copy it, then paste it here
https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/Progress/IMG_0303.jpg
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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 23 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

my stands have arrived and i have continued to take the bike apart

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0306.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0307.jpg

I have removed the headlight and the front fairing bracket that holds everything together

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0313.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0312.jpg

And also the speedo and the right hand brake unit

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0311.jpg

i also continued to strip down the back removing the battery, oil holder and disconnecting the electronics mostly

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0310.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/next/IMG_0309.jpg

The next part i will be starting to remove the enginer bit by bit, however this will have to be put on hold for a few weeks probably as my garage roof is leaking and is getting fixed in the next week so dont want to start removing things and loosing bits.
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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 28 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

while taking my wiring harness apart and unplugging connections i noticed its not in the best of shape, some connections and wires just crumbled as i took them off as they were so corroded, so i am just wondering would i be able to make a new one if i have the wiring diagram and follow my old wiring harness ? has anybody done this before ? what price would i be looking at ? any help is welcome thanks
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got a cylidner block, pistons and conrods from and RF400, i know it the same as my bandit and most likely fit yours if you need them.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaslam07 wrote:
while taking my wiring harness apart and unplugging connections i noticed its not in the best of shape, some connections and wires just crumbled as i took them off as they were so corroded


That tends to happen with old bikes.

chaslam07 wrote:

So i am just wondering would i be able to make a new one if i have the wiring diagram and follow my old wiring harness ?


Yes you could do that.

chaslam07 wrote:

has anybody done this before ? what price would i be looking at ? any help is welcome thanks


I have done it before. Its not a fun job in the least. More of a massive pain in the arse. If you can avoid it then do so.

To do it yourself probably budget around £70 or so for wires/connectors/fuse boxes/terminators/tape etc. Presuming you already have a soldering iron, multi-meter and some electronics skills.

To get someone else to do It, well tbh I dont know. I do it myself. From other people's experience id expect it to be anything from £400 to £900 for a full job.
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chaslam07
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, if anything i would be doing it myself as part of the whole learning exercise, im going to carry on and do a bit more today even though the garage roof still isnt done but i cant keep away
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 01 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garage roof still isnt fixed yet but couldnt stay away

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0315.jpg

Stripped down the handlebars

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0317.jpg

Then started stipping down the electronics

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0318.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0319.jpg

Then took the radiator and fan off, needless to say i got a bit wet haha

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0321.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0320.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/30th%20sept/IMG_0322.jpg

Slowly but surely coming along
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 22 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garage roof is now fixed so i started to strip it down more, didnt get much done as my ractchet broke trying to get the exhaust down pipes off, ive used WD40 but they wont move, ive managed to get the to outer ones off but the middle ones are stuck, there might even be one or two heads that are now destroyed as the allen key bit has just ripped round it because its that stuck so any advice welcome, now onto a few more pictures.

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0331.jpg
Started to take exhaust apart, removed rear bracket

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0330.jpg
Removed front brake assembly

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0332.jpg
And Wheel

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0333.jpg
Up on Bricks

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0335.jpg
The stuck pipes

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/21%20Oct/IMG_0334.jpg
Next step is to take this apart but manual isnt the best so hitting a brick wall at the minute dont know where to start
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 22 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaslam07 wrote:
Garage roof is now fixed so i started to strip it down more, didnt get much done as my ractchet broke trying to get the exhaust down pipes off, ive used WD40 but they wont move, ive managed to get the to outer ones off but the middle ones are stuck, there might even be one or two heads that are now destroyed as the allen key bit has just ripped round it because its that stuck so any advice welcome, now onto a few more pictures.


What you want for those stubborn bolts is a product called 'plusgas'. It should be available from any decent autoparts dealer (NOT halfrauds, they only sell their own brand shit). Failing that then heat them up with a blowtorch and then undo them.

For the allen key heads if your REALLY stuck then use a dremel to cut a flat head in the screw and unscrew them with a screwdriver.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, il try and get hold of some pulsgas, if not the dremel idea sounded good aswell
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitting a bolt with a hammer has never done me wrong yet, it shocks the threads and helps loosen such an item.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

An internet pound says the exhaust studs snap off.


I hate exhaust studs.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

so back in the garage today, bought a blowtorch and a dremel and plusgas so with hope i began to strip the bike down some more, Now for the pictures

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0342.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0341.jpg

Took more bits and parts off, including brake unit

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0340.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0339.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0345.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0348.jpg

Managed to get this off after much deliberation on how to do it, but in the end was a simple jubilee clip

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0346.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0350.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/28%20Oct/IMG_0349.jpg

This is how it stands now, was quite please the amount i got done, but yep the exhaust is still on, ive managed to get 1 bolt or each of the middle two pipes with the help of plusgas, blowtorch and breaker bar, but i have 2 bolts remaining where the heads have been rounded, started to cut a slot in one for a screwdriver bit but dont have a wide enough screwdriver in my garage, so what are my options at the minute, what happens if the bolts snap or i cant get it off, im not holding my breathe as a screwdriver bit isnt going to be as good as using an allen key bit or socket
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaslam07 wrote:
so what are my options at the minute, what happens if the bolts snap or i cant get it off,


Heat, penetrating oil, and time. Not all at the same time, because penetrating oil is flammable, of course, but leave it to soak in the stuff for a day or two. It may ease the bolts a bit. If they were anywhere else, I'd say hammer a torx bit into the rounded bolts, but the cylinder head is not somewhere where I'd want to see a knackered thread, so go easy on anything that involves impacts.
Stud extractors might be a good place to start; you may need to drill into the bolt a bit to give the extractor something to bite into, though.
If they still won't shift, you could try drilling them out/collapsing them. You will need to be extremely careful, though.

I had the same problem with the GS650GT in my sig, and collapsing the bolt was what worked for me, but it was done with help, and a hefty dose of ringpiece-twitching anxiety throughout.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 04 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Managed to get the exhaust of finally but it can at a price or one snapped bolt and some of the engine where the exhaust goes to snapped off, i dont know if this is fixable or do you have to get a new engine part ? but while i was thinking, could i just make a complete custome bike, different engine, lights, speedo, fairings, i know you will need to make custome mounting points on the frame for engine etc and i know itll cost alot more than just buying a new bike but im in no rush and if it can be done there wont be another bike out there like it so any advice welcome thanks

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0352.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0353.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 04 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try some left hand drill bits, you need a drill that can run in reverse but the idea is that the drill generates a lot of heat as its cutting and because its running backwards when it snags it will unwind the bolt that you are drilling through Thumbs Up

If you wind a tapered extractor in then the risk is that it will make the remains of the bolt spread out locking it into the hole, worse is if it snaps, theyre super tough and you need a super special drill bit to get that out.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 18 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

talked to a few people and feeling better about the engine as we think it can be easily fixed welding the part back on, started to strip down the water pump but the screwheads and all rounded so is looking like il be going out to buy a drill and some bits and easy outs to get them out,

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0355.jpg

It is very very dirty around there just clumps of mud and grime on top of each other

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0363.jpg

took the back wheel and brake assembly off

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0365.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0364.jpg

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0367.jpg

ordered some allen key socket bits and they came today but wasnt in, but will pick them up tomorrow and will still hopefully get the engine out this weekend.

found these pictures and this or something similar is what im going to attempt in 4 months up and runnning

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0362.png

https://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n527/chaslam07/IMG_0361.png

i like the exhaust system to but i am unsure what it is or if they have had to put custom parts on to make it fit but i want it haha
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