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RooRoo
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Heres me situation..(new bike related) Reply with quote

I currently have a cg125 2001 model (mint condition) and its just not quick enough, I can do about 65 and thats push it on a flat, I also want to be able to carry pillion and get rid of the L plates, if I sell my CG im hoping to get about 11/1200, in terms of getting a new bike and licence, what can i do with 1200? im 18 so cant do a DAS, so A2 seems the only way, im worried about selling the bike, and not being able to find a new one for cheap or something..and being stuck bikeless for ages...anyone got any advice for how I should spend that money?

I saw a TZR250 in another topic for 500, and I've love something like that but im worried the insurance would be stupidly high and/or a bike like that would just pack in due to it being 2 stroke..
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one thing but you can buy a brand new CG125 for less than £1200 (I've seen adverts in papers.. and they are genuine Honda not Hongda or Hondau Laughing)
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you need the bike to *do*?

It it your only means of transport, or is it a toy?
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

only means of transport (im pretty sure I can get 1200 for it, ive seen them go for that much here)

But I need something to capably carry pillion, and do motorway journeys
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sit your test and see if you can pick up an unfaired 'commuter' - Bros, cb500, er5...

They can be got pretty cheap and last forever.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or perhaps a CB(1) 400 (Superfour)? Dunno if the insurance'd be very nice though. A GPZ has a similar power to weight but is two insurance groups lower... Confused
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones I've seen for less which are genuine honda have 4 gears and a different (older) design yams. Square headlight, even older styling etc.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
Or perhaps a CB(1) 400 (Superfour)? Dunno if the insurance'd be very nice though. A GPZ has a similar power to weight but is two insurance groups lower... Confused


I have a cb-1 and they are group 6 insurance

Costs me £500 TPO

They are nice quick bikes

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PostPosted: 23:56 - 03 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a few insurance quotes for bikes like the cb500 so you know roughly what it will be. At your age carrying pillions will probably cost a bit extra on your insurance.
I think 1200 could be a bit optimistic for an 01 CG (although i hope you manage to get it). How many miles has it done?

If you have been riding around for a while on a CBT you probably won't need (m)any lessons so it will only cost you for test and theory crap.
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im pretty confident on the road, except sometimes when filtering..the cg has done 3000 miles, maybe i should aim lower than 1200 then, either way i dont wanna be stuck on L plates for much longer because I feel...inferior on the road..lol
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PostPosted: 02:58 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my licence last year, you can get some BLOODY good bikes for 1000, but depends what your after.. in fact a mate has a zxr 400 which cost him less than £1500 (though from a cg its a bit of a jump Razz)

I'd reccomend something like a cb1, gs500, cb500, gpz500, er-5. cbr600, or various older bikes if you're prepared to wave a spanner. Mines an old hack for most people but it cost me £900, nothing major has gone wrong with it (anything minor that has was down to neglected maintainance, like an unoiled cable e.t.c.) Its done +8000 miles in 9months, Did 600miles in one weekend not long ago and could still walk afterwards.

Its not just the inferiority complex that comes with a 125 larger capacity bikes are a world away in comfort (generally) distance capabilitys, and obviously powerrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Not just that, Doing your licence training will (probably) show you just how much improvement you can make to your rideing, i'd say thats allot more important than a shiney new bike.


As for the cg, perhaps try puting it on e-bay with an £800 reserve? £1000 is not unreasonable but they are quite cheep at the mo.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

any idea how hard i'd find the test? i'd say my riding is decent (considering I've been riding about 5 months, so its obviously not what would be classed as good)
And I'm confident in pretty much everything on the road, so I'm hoping it should be easy..
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend the BMW F650GS or CS Scarver to anyone, as its a cracking commuting tool, but also able to be opened up when you want to play. I've just gotten back from a week on the IOM at the Manx, and I had great fun on the course with the Scarver.
It doesn't have the sheer top speed of a lot of bikes, but can still do 105 ish, and the Rotax engine is just about bulletproof...
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Heres me situation..(new bike related) Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
I currently have a cg125 2001 model (mint condition) and its just not quick enough.


This is why, when people talk about practical and reliable, i'm the one stood at the back going "no no no NO".

CG's aren't good first bikes, they're good bikes for people that decide they want something that doesn't scare them after riding a long time.

A bike to retire on, if you will Laughing .

Get a 125 2 stroke, or a 250 Very Happy.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Heres me situation..(new bike related) Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
CG's aren't good first bikes


Wrong!

I had a CG before I got my RS, as was easily predictable a new rider starting in february when roads aren't at there best I crashed, cost me £15 to fix it and I was back on the road the next day. Had it been an NSR or RS or something it would've easily been a few hundred pounds of damage!
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CG's aren't good first bikes


CG125 is practical, reliable, easy and cheap to fix. Ok it isn't the fastest bike but is that what learning is about? The faster you go the faster you end up in trouble and the less time you have to prevent yourself from going splat!

There is not a better all round learner bike!
2 strokes are more maintainance intensive and anything with fairings on is going to be expensive to fix if you drop it.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

generally the more you spend on a first bike the less you will have to spend on a second bike

and that's the important one

the first one is just a means to an end, a way of passing your test

I learned on an RD80 - it was gutless and kack but I only had it for six months - get some miles, pass test, get bigger bike


all 125s are shite in the scheme of things so just use what you have to pass your test then move on
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:

the first one is just a means to an end, a way of passing your test


I disagree. For me, the "end" is riding.
I don't need a pink licence for me to enjoy riding. Yes, I stand to gain some stuff by passing my test, but I don't stand to lose anything by not taking it.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 04 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will cost you more if you don't take your test. Insurance goes down when you have a full license, and to keep going on a CBT costs about £90 every two years, and the test costs £48. So not going your test will work out more expensive.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR125-Kid-UK wrote:
Mr C wrote:

the first one is just a means to an end, a way of passing your test


I disagree. For me, the "end" is riding.
I don't need a pink licence for me to enjoy riding. Yes, I stand to gain some stuff by passing my test, but I don't stand to lose anything by not taking it.


wait until you are 25

30

35

and riding a (insert hyper-mega whatever bike of your choice) at that point in time

I guarantee you WILL look back and think - "hey the old codger was right - 125s are shite, what the hell was I thinking"

I guarantee it

without fail
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:
wait until you are 25

30

35

and riding a (insert hyper-mega whatever bike of your choice) at that point in time

I guarantee you WILL look back and think - "hey the old codger was right - 125s are shite, what the hell was I thinking"

I guarantee it

without fail


Mmm, 36 and with 9 125s in the garage. They are still fun.

All the best

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PostPosted: 09:49 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are a very special case though keith.
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Mr C
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

indeed

for most of us it's one bike only or maybe two max

I bet if it was a toss up what you would keep and what would go if you were to be limited to one bike

none of the 125s would be on the list Wink
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Don't know really. I have run a 125 as my only bike in the past after passing my test. It would depend on what I was using the bike for.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 05 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Heres me situation..(new bike related) Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
I currently have a cg125 2001 model (mint condition)


Can I ask the question whether this 'mint condition' CG 125 is the same one that your cousin rode into a lamp post and smashed the front end up on?

Or am I confusing that bike with someone else's? Confused Rolling Eyes Eh? Liar Thinking Whistle
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