Filtering during the Mod 2 (Video examples)

[Jamey]

Please can you take a look at this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5-b9oWg7E - and tell me if those four filtering examples would be acceptable during the Mod 2 test.

It's one thing I can't find very much information on anywhere so I'm not really clear on what you should and shouldn't do during the test.

[P.]

Dont have to filter.. if you do it wrong you will fail... is it worth it?

[Kris]

DO NOT filter during your test.

It's completely unnecessary and will most likely cause more grief. If an examiner takes you on a route that has you sitting in traffic then more fool them. You are certainly NOT expected to filter.


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[nant]

as above! Dont filter!

[Rogerborg]

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[Jamey]

Ok cool.

Does this apply even if the situation seems like the sort of time when you really ought to be filtering? IE you'll never get marked down for not filtering?

[P.]

[Rogerborg]

https://www.deviantart.com/download/7505473/you_shall_not_pass.jpg

Unless there's a lane free, and you take appropriate observations, pass in a safe, responsible fashion without exceeding the speed limit, and then return to the left after overtaking.

There's no obligation on you to filter. You're risking failure by doing so. Every minute that you're sitting in traffic is one fewer minute in which to nob something up.

Even if you're got an examiner who's not riding some massive BMW (ha ha, I jest) and who expects you to filter, then failure to make progress is a minor. It's a heck of a gamble to take.
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[dsb79]

the more time you waste in traffic the less you can fail on, you dont have to filter, so dont do it, you mod 2 is a timed test, so if you have to sit in a jam sit there.

[Jamey]

Fair play then, cheers.

[andy_uk]

Not many shoulder checks in that video...
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[Glenben92]

Do NOT filter on your test at any point whatsoever.

I've read the OP and immedaitely written this. I will guarantee that upon reading the other replies, at least 90% of them will include the same golden information. DO NOT FILTER ON YOUR TEST.

Traffic in normal life: bugger, wastes time, petrol, gonna be late, annoyingly boring.

Traffic in test conditions: excellent, waste time in a situation where it's almost impossible to do something that you'll get marked down for. The longer you spend in traffic, the less actual TEST you have to ride.

Think of your mod 2 as follows: When you leave the test centre you have 100% score (you've done nothing wrong) as the test progresses you have the opportunity to lose points by making mistakes. All the time you're out, the clock is ticking down. When it reaches zero you'll find yourself back at the test centre. If you can waste that time in traffic then you still have your 100% score and will get a clean sheet pass to go and brag about.

Remember that the test length is predetermined and finite. If you pull out of the centre, into traffic, move three feet in half an hour then return to the test centre, you've passed the test because you've done NOTHING wrong.

I think your driving test is the only single instance in life when traffic is a godsend.

p.s. Don't worry, it's easy, good luck.
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[ElliotReidMD]

Over 20 years ago, when I had my driving test, I got stuck in horrendous Friday afternoon rush hour traffic and covered about 1/3 of the route. The examiner said to me since he liked what he had seen of my driving he'd give me the benefit of the doubt.

In other words I had no major faults so he had to pass me. I probably would have passed anyway, unless I had an uncharacteristic brain fart.

Only problem was I didn't know this at the time and was concerned about being stuck in traffic and the constant tutting of the examiner

[Alex_B]

[Jamey]

Ok, so I had my Mod 1 training and test this weekend and while one of the other students was doing his Mod 1 two of the instructors were chatting to the rest of us about the Mod 2.

They started talking about filtering techniques and I chimed in and said that I'd been told (ie by you lot) that you should categorically never filter on the Mod 2 and if that means you sit in traffic then you sit in traffic.

Both of the instructors were immediately like "Oh no, you want to keep the examiner happy, if he talks into your earpiece and says 'please can you make progress' then you need to start filtering. He won't be happy if you just sit there because you're not demonstrating anything to him."

So what would you guys say in response to that? True? False? Bit of both?

I thought failing to make progress was only applicable if you're not getting very far (or anywhere) when you've got flowing traffic or a free road?

[Rogerborg]

They may have a local examiner who's got a hard on for filtering. Alternatively, they may have hard ons for filtering, and so are teaching what they enjoy doing rather than what's likely to come up on the test.

We can only speak from our own experience. I sat Mod 2 twice () - both times we hit traffic, and neither time did the examiner say anything, nor did I receive a minor for not making progress.
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[SweenyT]

I was told by my instructor not to filter on my Mod2 and the longer you sit in traffic the better.

On my Mod2, we hit traffic just after one of the roundabouts and were sat in traffic behind a open back truck for about 5 mins or so. Once we got close to the first left turn off the roundabout my examiner told me to undercut the truck and the car in front of him which meant going onto the hazards - which he'd been sitting on. He had to say it twice as I turned my head to look at him in disbelief when he said it the first time so I did all my shoulder checks etc and did what he asked. I didnt get a minor or anything for that and the test carried on.

IMO only if the examiner tells you to make progress because you are sat in traffic for too long then I would make very careful progress and overtake. It's unlikely that they will tell you to actually filter though the middle of traffic because at the end of the day its dangerous and if anything happens they could end up being liable in some way. They do however expect you to overtake if on a dual carriageway or the left lane is going a lot slower than the speed limit especially if you are on a 500+ as long as its safe to do so and you do not exceed the speed limit.
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[Jamey]

Cool, so it's only a minor for not making progress?

If so then I'll definitely sit in any traffic, I think.

[SweenyT]