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 Posted: 14:39 - 26 Sep 2011 Post subject: Using a company car rather than bike |
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Hey
Basically my boss wants to send me on a photography course for work.. Its near Reading... I've been there before in a company car, the journey back on a Friday at 5pm...was not the best. Swindon to Maidstone... took well over 4 hours due to the M25
Upon reflection I could have got there quicker and got home quicker on the bike.
He has said im to use the company car... it gets far better MPG than the bike.. but I dont particularly want to be sitting in traffic on Friday night..
He seems against me using the bike, even though I turn up pretty respectably on the bike, shirt, tie, shoes and that...and I have bike gear over the top so its not going to get wrecked.
Is it just a company thing... He looked down on me when I offered to use my bike I wasn't even going to bother to ask for petrol, just the convenience of the bike.
I "shouldn't" be complaining, i'm getting use of a brand spanking new car...but its just meh with traffic.
Any idea what I can say/help me in my bid to not join the dreaded M25  |
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Tell them to nob off and use the bike. Its your choice, they can't force you to use the car.  ____________________ "The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had" |
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Is your bike insured for business use? This may be an issue perhaps? I would take the bike anyway, your call what you choose to travel in or on!  |
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Take the car, find a hold up and sit there for a few hours, get late to course and have to go again at companies cost.
Tell him if you'd taken bike you'd have been there well on time.
Have you asked if he has a problem?
Getting to a course looking like you've been dragged through a hedge shouldn't be an issue, a course you are going to means you are a paying customer not the other way round.
Tell him it'll take 90 mins by bike, 4 hours by car and is the company paying for this time. If not, bike it is. ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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Also he may know that you will be bringing folders and what not away full of the coursework ?! Perhaps take the bike and DHL the crap they give you.
alternatively, tell him you promise to use the car, drive home, and get the bike. technically you havent lied.
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 Posted: 15:17 - 26 Sep 2011 Post subject: |
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Fair points above... No to business use, but commuting yes... meh I work for Honda, im commuting to a Honda agent.. same diff
He said he would want me to use the car (Honda dealer, Honda car etc..)
Was speaking to a guy in the Mazda dealership whos joined us, part of his contract stated if he was offered use of a company car, this must be used to and from work... something about representing the company etc.
Im guessing the Honda manager feels the same? |
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| MORTON wrote: | Is your bike insured for business use? This may be an issue perhaps? I would take the bike anyway, your call what you choose to travel in or on!  |
This....
Your on company work periods of time, therefor you fall under the works company policy. You will not be insured to use the bike under the company policy.
"but I can argue im using my bike to go to a friends and not work"
Which is fine, but your company will still not want you to use the bike for a work day. You company can fall into lots of legal rubbish.
I've had the same discussion many times at work here. I can do that on my bike blah blah. Reality is the company still will not ever lket me use my bike during company time, we have cars, im insured on them all for a reason.
Going by your bosses reaction, save the hassle, take the car and suck up the trip home (99% chance you will leave early on the friday anyway).
Its a legal thing for your company. If you had an accident and got signed off, think about the compupance. You would be in loads of problems, not going to work, but then woul.d your company pay sick pay, as your not at work according the police accident form..... Then you've not been signed off for holiday etc... Then they see your on a work training course, on your own machine. Legal bumming time.
Use the car, save a lot of hassle, and loose maybe a little bit of your time. And anyway, what if your bike got stolen? No cover then. If your work car gets smashed by rioters, thats fine, its not your problem to worry about, its the works car and insurance.
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Ahhh I added a bit more.
See, your moaning about your job, and your being sent on photography courses. Would love to be sent on one In fact, i'd just like a course I was promised 4 years ago please Maybe a pay rise too. £500 doesn't match inflation for 4 years.
See, you aint got it bad really  |
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use the photography course to start up your own sideline business  |
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It's a job, not a hobby. If he doesn't see the sense in you getting there on time, suck it up, and start looking elsewhere. When you leave for more money and a better position, be sure to tell him why. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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If they are paying you for the course, paying you for the petrol, and paying you for the time away...then sod it, go in the car...and enjoy the perks!!!
If coming back afterwards is the problem, then make the return journey the perfect excuse to find the local B'roads.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 89 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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