Failed my CBT

[BikeNewbie]

Well today I took my CBT and failed.

Erm I now dont even want to do it again, They said they didnt feel confident to take me out on the road, It all started because I was getting the Junctions wrong with all the indicators and that.

I can understand it but when there is people stalling 10 or more times and not even being able to pull off correctly. I somewhat think I have been failed wrongly.

I really thought I was doing well, Obviously not.

Soooo annoyed with myself.

[Shielder]

Don't worry about it. I had the exact same problem with my first CBT. They didn't feel confident with me going out on the road. This was a BIG confidence knock for me.

But, I booked it again and passed. Got a bike and am just waiting for Thursday and my Mod 2 to roll around.

Many people fail the CBT. You are not alone.

Don't feel under pressure to do things as fast as other people on the CBT. Think things through, take it slow at the start. You'll soon find that the indicators, junctions, observations and positioning start flowing naturally.

Like I said, take it slowly, plan what you need to do, and then do it. Remember, no-one will be able to hear you talk to yourself in the helmet! It helps, believe me!

Andy

[MadCatLady]

You have only failed if you don't go back. Lots of people don't complete (not pass) CBT in one day. Yes, it can be a dent in your confidence if you don't get the certificate at the end of one day and other people there did, but its nothing to be ashamed off. Go back, learn from your mistakes, listen to the instructor, then you will be able to get out on the road. Everyone learns at their own pace and it doesn't make you a worse person if you pick things up slower.
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CBT - 06/07/11 Theory passed - 19/09/11 Module 1 - 00/00/00 Module 2 - 00/00/00

Yamaha YBR 125

[BikeNewbie]

All they kept saying was, Come on we dont have much time. And It was rushing me so much.

I just dont feel it was right, But it's done now.

[Andy_Pagin]

[Rogerborg]

[ThoughtContro...]

[BikeNewbie]

Any_Pagin - I'm 17 and Yes I do have some road experience, I have my Car License.

Rogerborg - It was 1 Instructer to two Learners.

I want too pass it but I seem like such an idiot to fail something that people seem to think is so simple.

[Ayrton]

I just passed my CBT after 4 tries! dont give up whatever you do. I had the same problems with junctions and indicators.
I went with another instructor that i knew people recommended. It was much better. He was patient and didnt mind if i got something wrong.

Keep that in mind, dont give up on it

[Imonster]

[Andy_Pagin]

[BikeNewbie]

Unfortunatly im no where near North London.

I understand indicators are important, But I just dont agree with how they failed me, I dont feel too bothered because I get to take it again. But I feel it was wrong.

They seemed very friend;y although one of them liked to throw about quite alot how long he had been riding for. And I couldnt care less really.

I am going back in about a week, Which is the nearest they had, If I do fail again and I feel they are taking the piss, Then something will have to be done.

[Shall78]

As others have said, if you did not feel comfortable at the centre find another, but don't give up, if at first you don't succeed and all

[binaryferret]

Find another center if they were rushing you. I wouldn't worry about not getting on the road and getting that certificate right away - it might knock your confidence but think of it as extra time with some hopefully high skilled instructors that can walk you through it; plus imagine the confidence knock if they fobbed you off when you weren't ready and then you have to deal with that initial learning curve on your tod.

First time doing CBT I didn't get on the roads, went back to the center next weekend (I didn't have to pay for this though) got on the road but I was still uneasy with balance issues, so had to pay for a third go (just for two hours) the next weekend and this time I did really well and came away feeling much more confident than I would have done if I had 'passed' the second time because I felt I actually was ready to start the route of actually passing a proper test.

Of course I did have a bit of a bad accident 4 weeks later but...that was just unlucky although a bit more going through how to handle wobbles might have helped who knows

Good luck!
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CBT: 07/2011 | Theory: 08/2012 | Current Bike: Yamaha YBR 125 Custom 2009

[Paulington]

List of things you could have been doing wrong (non exhaustive):

A) Failing to indicate.
B) Not indicating properly.
C) Forgetting to cancel your indicators.
D) Incorrect road positioning.
E) Incorrect approach speed.
F) The rest of it, there are loads.

That's just based on what you've said so far and to echo what has been said above, "indicators and stuff" are very important! Indicators can both save and take lives.

If I were you, when you are driving your car try to picture yourself riding a motorcycle in that situation with questions such as:

"What road position should I be in now?"
"When should I begin indicating?"
"When should I cancel my indicator?"
"When should I do my shoulder check(s)/lifesaver(s)?"
"What should I be doing right now?"
etc.

That may very well help you. On a motorcycle the things you take for granted in a car are 500x more important. It also helps if you drive to a quiet place at night and WALK/pushbike the various junctions asking yourself the same questions as above.

CBTs can be very tricky for some new riders and statistically some will take longer to pick it up than others but you WILL get it.

Also, if you didn't like the instructors this time/when you go this time then change schools, in education of any type the teacher is just as if not more important than the material being taught. Drive to another CBT centre, have a chat with them and see if you 'click', if you do then you may very well do better with them than your current training school.

Best of luck to you, I'm confident you can do it. .
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"Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
Current Vehicles: '89 Kawasaki KDX200, '99 Yamaha XV535, '00 Honda ST1100 Pan-European, '08 Suzuki GSX-R1000, '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GS4 2.0 TDCi, '15 BMW 1 Series 116d Sport Turbo.
CBT: 27/08/08. Theory: 04/09/09. Module 1: 16/09/09. Module 2: 01/10/09.

[hedgehugger]

I had to do my CBT over 2 days, totally exhausted on the first day.
2nd day everything clicked into place and we were out on the road quite quickly.
Sometimes your brain just takes a while to sponge all that information up.

[P.addy]

I have PM'd you BikeNewbie

[BikeNewbie]

Paulington - That was a very detailed post mate, Thankyou!

Yes I was very tired yesterday after doing it all, Maybe next time I will get it.

I shall now reply ##Paddy##

[Kamikaze Bob]

I had to return for a 2nd day as well mate, and it was very much needed in my case. I was shattered because the wee yin kept me up the night before, and couldn't control the bike at slow speeds. I wasn't safe to go on the road ride and I knew it myself, didn't stop me feeling gutted. Went back after a few weeks, with a proper night's sleep and breakfast, felt loads better, and got my certificate.
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2001 Honda VFR800fi

[BikeNewbie]

It's good that you passed though mate, Hopefully I will get my certificate next time.

[Ellis]

Don't beat yourself up matey, it is hard if you have never ridden a bike before, on my cbt there was me and another bloke who had ridden a bike before so I felt as if I was slowing him down!. I actually thought I had failed it as I kept forgetting to turn my indicators off and my lane positioning sucked. It is tiring to right, luckily I drive and cycle on the road so for people that dont I don't know how the hell they pass must be so daunting!.

Chin up and try again!, you will make it!.

[blade023]

Geez, when you hear about things like that, it makes you realise how lucky you are to have chosen a good school. IMO the cbt isn't about pass/fail, it's about you getting to grips with the machine, controlled maneuvers, and road sense. Whether this takes 1 day, or 5, makes no bloody difference, because every one is different.

Yeah, I did mine in one day.. but I pick things up quick. Others don't, but I'm sure they could end up being far more skilled than me. (jack of all trades.. master of none )

I'm doing my mod 1 tomorrow, and before I started training (I looked up what's involved on DSA site) I was pretty nervous about it. Figure 8?? But after being with the instructor - top bloke, for 2 days, I'm actually now looking forward to it! Get it out the way, and do the fun bit.

Basically..
If you're not happy with how they teach you, find another school. If you're anywhere near devon, I highly recommend Ace Rider Training

Don't let it get you down. Go at your own pace, you'll get it.

Good luck!

[J.W.Pepper]

Bahh..

wouldn't worry about going back for another day!

I didn't get my CBT in 1 day but thought of it that I got to do an extra half day riding for free!!

Got my certificate on day 2, bought a bike the week after and learnt to ride better by myself and with the help of friends.

Booked my DAS after 2 months and passed both MOD's 1st time with just 1 minor on the MOD 1!

CBT is the basic stuff so if it takes 2 days to take it all in then so be it! - Personally, I think it would be better over 2 days than trying to cram it all in 1 day!
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CBT - 01/05/2011 | Theory - 07/05/2011 | Mod 1 - 01/07/2011 | Mod 2 - 08/07/2011
Hyosung GT125 | Honda CBR600f F3

[halucin8]

took me 2 days too. but well worth it. and now i dont feel pressured by my ex to ride I am enjoying it alot more, and doing it for myself.
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[perfectpillio...]

Hi there - newbie here. I didn't even get to the end of my CBT. I just didn't get it. At all. I was with two other people - one who'd previously ridden for while and the other who had already passed a CBT a couple of years ago. I am a pillion. Never ever sat at pointy end. Everyone told me how much fun it was and how easy it was. Well it was a complete disaster for me. The other two were going round cones while I was still getting to grips with making it go. I found the gears so mind-mashing (i've been dring a car for 24 years without thought!!) that they ended up wheeling out a 49cc moped so I could at least play along. When it came to the road bit I was completely petrified. There was NO WAY I could go on the road - I was so far behind. I completely went to pieces so the centre let me have my own instructor for the afternoon and I decided to have another go with the gears. Unfortunately, he told me completely different info from the first guy (recommended different brake to use as primary one etc.) so after doing it one way on one bike, another way on the moped, and then ANOTHER, I was still doing 5 yards and stopping when my original group came back from their road bit. I couldn't handle any more after that. My confidence was nil and I was frankly devastated that I just couldn't get to grips with it. I've never felt so stupid in my life. And that's a lot of money to waste as well. Totally gutted : (