Pattern over genuine

P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Just called up local Suzuki dealer, looking to get an oil and dust seal for the GSXR as its pissed out its fork oil again.

Need it for the weekend really, so was happy to pop down at lunch, thought I'd call and check they have them in stock.

No dust seals but do have the oil seal. The dust seal looks in perfect condition, hasnt done many miles, 400 at most. Its leaking so bad so I assume oil seal is dead and dust seal is just letting it pass.

They only stock gen suzuki parts, so I ask for the price of the oil seal.

£18.08 EACH!!!

I bought a pattern set for £20 both forks fully done with bushes.

Its a bit of rubber/plastic ffs Laughing

Obviously I need it now...as bike is borked as it is, fluid over tyre isn't fun. Is this common, never bought bits from dealers.. only ebay.

Still, not happy handing over £20 nearly for a poxy seal. Rolling Eyes

leonski · Spanner Monkey Joined: 05 Jul 2011 Karma :

It is scandalous how they can charge for a piece of rubber and to hand over that much money would hurt.
I always try and get a alternative but if you need it strait away you get stung in the pocket I guess its how they make there money Rolling Eyes

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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

You do hold a fair point... I did pay a low price.

I'm sill not chucking that sort of money at something so tiny Laughing

I'll wait and try another brand of pattern.. its just the price difference, if they lowered it, say £10 a seal i'd do it... its still more than 2 pattern seals, but its urgent enough to warrant the extra few quid.

temeluchus · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Oct 2008 Karma :

Some of them make the OEM parts-they are BADGE engineered into being bike manufacturers parts. Most larger bikes have forks made by third parties in any case-they sell their seals to suzuki etc etc and sell them spares. You pay the OEM and suzuki to buy a seal that is often available direct.

Plenty of decent reputable pattern part makers out there. I've never had a problem with the likes of vesrah as far as fork seals go. I wouldn't be surprised if the manufactured the badged parts in the first place.

Its amazing the false sense of security buying expensive parts gives some people. I'm not saying there isnt cheap crap out there, but it doesn't take a lot of effort to find money saving alternatives.
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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

The seals were Nikkone... I've used on the older 125's.. but never on USD GSXR forks. One fork is fantastic and dry as a bone. The other is somewhat dripping.

HD · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Karma :

Maybe it got knackered on the way in?

What did you put it in with? (like driver etc.)

Or were your forks pitted?

Pyramid Parts seem to always bring up for seals. Here are some that are for the Bandit
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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Nufkamp · Traffic Copper Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Karma :

In my opinion, and it *is* only my opinion, I'd go for genuine seals every time. I've used pattern seals from Wemoto in the past and they're crap.
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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Bull · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Karma :

have you tired www.wemoto.com or is it co.uk one of them, They Offer both as a rule maybe more,
I would go with the Orignal ones not Pattern with Fork seals IMO

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ians238 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Karma :

sumitomo make pipes for oil pipelines, sheet metal and are a manufacturer of gearmotors and speed reducers, including cycloidial gearing.
seals for brakes are not exactly their most well developed product.

nissin make electrical products such as flashes for cameras and also a wide variety of food products

brembo on the other hand make brakes and parts for brakes so I think they would be my first choice

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ians238 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Karma :

hardly retarded thankyou,
the point is brembo make brakes and parts for brakes thats it full stop.
they dont make pipes or food stuffs or anything else therefore it would be safe to assume they make good brakes and seals etc.

anyway this is about fork seals not brakes therefore is irrelevent.