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Cheeseybeaner
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PostPosted: 06:41 - 06 Oct 2011    Post subject: Plastic clamps on braced bars??? Reply with quote

Forgive me but don't plastic clamps on a handle bar brace rather remove any benefit to the brace being there?!
Got a set of renthal style bars from ebay which seem fine otherwise but have plastic clamps for the brace, surely would lack the strength to make the brace any use at all?
A little dismayed, makes the bars look as if they're decorative.
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 06 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Plastic clamps on braced bars??? Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
A little dismayed, makes the bars look as if they're decorative.



Nail, head.


Most (i.e. can't vouch for chinese stuff) bars will be strong enough without the brace, a plastic clamped brace is just for show.
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 06 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had steel braced bars on my DR350 and over the course of a year they changed shape several times with all the offroad falls I had. The (genuine) Renthals that replaced them shrugged off any such nonsense with ease.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy shit off ebay ... get shit off ebay and your surprised when it's shit? Confused
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Plastic clamps on braced bars??? Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
Forgive me but don't plastic clamps on a handle bar brace rather remove any benefit to the brace being there?!
Got a set of renthal style bars from ebay which seem fine otherwise but have plastic clamps for the brace, surely would lack the strength to make the brace any use at all?
A little dismayed, makes the bars look as if they're decorative.


Renthal Style - thats where you're going wrong. Proper Renthals are less than £30; buy cheap, buy twice!
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Plastic clamps on braced bars??? Reply with quote

It depends the reason for the brace, etc; in some cases you do want some flex, so it's possible the plastic could account for this (when landing big jumps in motocross or attacking rock gardens etc in enduro).

Probably just cheap, though Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 08 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest the bars look pretty sturdy, they're thicker than the ones I took off the bike, didn't really fancy forking out £30 on a set of renthals so bought these as were in the right colour (black) and the dimensions seemed about right for what I wanted so £17 seemed about right.
Just seems a little whimsical to brace a handlebar then use plastic clamps to support the brace! Maybe I'll see about getting some metal clamps if I can find some.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
To be honest the bars look pretty sturdy, they're thicker than the ones I took off the bike, didn't really fancy forking out £30 on a set of renthals so bought these as were in the right colour (black) and the dimensions seemed about right for what I wanted so £17 seemed about right.
Just seems a little whimsical to brace a handlebar then use plastic clamps to support the brace! Maybe I'll see about getting some metal clamps if I can find some.


How much would you expect to pay for these metal clamps, five pounds, maybe a tenner?

By the time you've searched for and bought the clamps (if you can find them) it makes the genuine Renthals seem like rather good value............ Wink
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my sets of genuine Renthal bars on this bike. They also have plastic joints.
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Renthals also have plastic joints? I'm surprised at this. Maybe there's a reason for them using plastic which isn't just a sign of cheapness.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The quality of the metal may be significantly different.

However having a quick google, it seems that Renthals for instance are definitely 'tuned' for different amounts of flex.
With the stiffest ones being strongest, but transmitting the most vibration to the hands, which can cause arm pump etc (only an issue off-road really.)

The other thing to consider is that it may be better to have a bar that bends in a crash - as it's relatively cheap rather than having a strong bar bending your suspension components etc.

Of course presumably part of the trick is to get a bar that bends - but bounces back so you can carry on riding after a crash.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 09 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.
I'm not intending to do any serious off-roading, I just wanted to try a wider more forward set of bars on the bike. I've tried them out and if anything you feel as if you're sitting with chest a little lower and there's more of a forward stretch instead of feeling a bit cramped with bars that curve backwards.
I had a similar set on a cb750 and just liked the 'in control' feel of the bike with them fitted, the only thing which was awkward was the ease with which they'd grab car mirrors filtering, probably less of an issue on an enduro style bike as they're taller.
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