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TheBoyChris
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Run in with the law: I've been an idiot. Reply with quote

Sods laws isn't it. I'm 7 days from being 21, that's 7 days from doing my big bike test. My friend says "fancy a go of a big bike? Just a quick peek at the great things to come?"

Well yeah, damn right Smile It's 9:30pm, traffic is minimal. What harm can a quick one round the block do?

Plenty, especially when you get pulled by the Police on a bike that a> You're not insured on, b> you've got no licence for and c> you can't find the MOT certificate for.

Basically I've been asked to produce documents, and as I gave them my real name I'm pretty much screwed. I've been told by my local Police station to go back this afternoon and talk to the officer that pulled me over, he might slap my wrist (being that it was a test drive) or he might throw the book. They did commend my brute honesty over the counter, I pretty much walked in and said "I was on a bike too big for me, with no insurance and I can't find my MOT certificate yet." They just told me to come back tomorrow.

And the best bit? They pulled me over because my licence plate was obscured by some black tape and one of the screws had come loose.

Brilliant. I'm at fault, I'm not going to try and worm my way outta it. Time to take the punishment, anyone know what I could be hit by?

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PostPosted: 10:52 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:56 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my ex friends had the same thing happen to him, he decided he was going to have ago on my scooter way back in 2001 this was.

He went round the estate, and he indicated back into the road where I was going frantic thinking it had been stolen, then next minute there was a police van behind him pulling him over Confused.
They said they stopped him due to it being a 50cc with no L Plates ( I had passed my test hence they weren't fitted) He lied to them at the side of the road and said he had a licence and insurance etc and they asked him to produce.
He didn't have any of these, so he went to the police station shortly after and explained to them where he was charged with riding with no licence, and insurance. He went to court and got a £500 fine and 12 months ban on the licence he didn't have, last time I spoke to him his ban had been up and he was finding it mega hard to insure a car at all.

Also bare in mind your "mate" can also get done for lending you the bike as that is also an offence!
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alliamc
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bloke had a similar situation with a car, he got, in all, £500 fines and 3 month ban for being pulled at traffic lights with no tax, no insurance and no MOT. his car (which 2 years on he's still paying the £5000 loan for) got stolen and he was test driving the replacement that would cost him £200 cos his insurance company f*cked him over when paying out for the stolen car. that was the court being lenient with him, every case is different though, it's all down to the judge at the end of it, you might get away with it lighter, just stay honest and be very apologetic!! one other thing, it makes a big difference where the court is, if its a quiet area with little to no crime then it might be pretty bad for you, if however they have to deal with little shits all the time they won't give a toss about you trying out a big bike, just remember to be very polite and very apologetic
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

With bacon, honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. Thumbs Up
Just be really apologetic, say youv'e learnt your'e lesson.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piggy doesnt want to wreck your life just for having a sensible ride round the block on a bike. just explain that you were going to do your test in a few days time, and that you were *Thinking* about buying your mates bike, so you just wanted a quick go to see if it was worth it or not Wink

Ive known people buy a car/bike, then drive it home with no insurance, get pulled, explain the situation, and get sent on their way after a caution.

I think the worst you can expect is a bollocking and a few points. Given you honesty a ban would be the most stupid thing ever Wink
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Ste
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully they'll be okay about it and just a slight bollocking. Time to practise your grovelling and arse kissing I think.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a crying shame, but the term "Sods law" came about for a very real reason.

Do you have someone in the community who can write a letter covering your character? local community leader, church minister, some youth activity coordinator, someone like that?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
I think the worst you can expect is a bollocking and a few points. Given you honesty a ban would be the most stupid thing ever Wink


Wrong Exclamation

If the officer reports or charges you it means a trip to court which will be points and a fine. There is a set scale for the points. No licence and no insurance could well mean a ban, especially if you already have points.

He may decide to give to a verbal warning but don't over do it on the grovelling. It wont get you any extra brownie points.

How long have you had your licence? If it's less than 2 years 6 points will get your licence reverted to a provisonal.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Re: Run in with the law: I've been an idiot. Reply with quote

TheBoyChris wrote:
Plenty, especially when you get pulled by the Police on a bike that a> You're not insured on, b> you've got no licence for and c> you can't find the MOT certificate for.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny how they get keen bikers, but there are some seriously suspicious "bikers" in our area, i.e. (not meaning to be racist or insulting, but observant), definately no license, no insurance - brand new R1's and only riding in trainers and t-shirts on even a moderately warm day, when most bikers favour their leathers. If I were the police, i would scout out for these characters and get them done for serously wreckless driving, such as drag racing down a busy road with the front wheel up. It is Sod's law and i just feel very unfortunate and gutted for you. Do you presently have an A2 license or NO license at all?
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veeeffarr
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has passed his CBT.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheeeit!


Everytime I've been straight with the old bill, they've always been OK with me.

Have you ever had any run in's with them previously?
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TheBoyChris
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, never been in trouble with the law before for anything. As tobyr says I've only got my CBT, I was riding the bike as kind of a "test drive" before buying a bigger bike in 7 days (when I'll be doing my test and I'm 21, yay...)

Anyhow my only plan is to go down, tell the truth, apologise for being a tit and then taking whatever punishment they administer accordingly.

Bit of an arse but so was I eh.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully they'll see that you're being 100% honest and not trying to waste their time, and mention something to them about how it's really taught you a lesson and you'll never consider doing something so stupid (hype it up, so they think you've really been scared by it all Smile) and how you're very pleased it didn't turn into something more serious.

Or if you want to claim insanity I'll back you up. Razz Razz
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skida
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that you best bet is to be honest, polite and regretful. Explain the situation about the test coming up and hope for the best. Good luck.
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The Tot
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

An apologetic and /slightly/ intimidated or more of an innocent attitude will do it - regretful and polite swings it in your way, but don't go over the top. Since i was only 17 when i got done for "driving without accordance to your license" and i had a clean sheet, they only repremanded me due to my age. Hopefully you'll get away with only a caution or warning, but if you get sent to court, i would really feel for you... My mate was in the same situation as me, and spent 100 quid on a barrister to get the fine down - he still got 3 points for the offense nonetheless.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well ive just got my summons, sounds highly highly serious. Any advice on how to fill out my incomings and outgoings form?

They actually have a space for fags/alcohol, clothing, food.

My income = 250 p/m

I end up with about a fiver by the end of the month.

Any advice how much guesswork your allowed to do?

As id say i spend pretty much all my money, say 150 on booze/fags(/dope), 50 on clothes and 50 on food, not to mention the 75 a month i owe my dad for the bike. But they want proof of debts owed... (and yeh i really dont know how i end up with any money)
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

£150 on a drink and fags a month, healthy.

I filled in my statement of means off the top of my head and didn't get any quibbles.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
£150 on a drink and fags a month, healthy.

I filled in my statement of means off the top of my head and didn't get any quibbles.


Im guessing about that, at the moment anyway. Its probably more about 10-15 on fags, but i spend about a tenner everytime im down the pub. And im there about 3 times a week, at least. so thats 40 x 3, 120 a month. Plus a bit of pot, but thats not gonna count soon, as i intend to avoid it when back at college.so thats 135
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus your carry out from the off sales and petrol on top of that. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
Plus your carry out from the off sales and petrol on top of that. Laughing


Priecisely. Altho im definitely getting banned so it makes no odds about petrol. Im just gonna bring some bank statements and pay slips. Prove im poor as fuck. Even when i sell my bike its all going straight back to my dad.

But never mind. I struggle on
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

why you getting banned?
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 08 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayluvmito wrote:
why you getting banned?


Provisional licence or full licence obtained less than 2 years ago, have a 6 point limit before your banned. I guess he is assuming that he is gonna get at least 6 points.

At least when your in court you can say that you werent speeding nor riding dangerously, that you were doing it some place a bit quiet etc

It was bad luck that you got pulled in the first place. 90% of the people i know have driven/ridden uninsured at some point in time, your one of the few ive heard of getting caught, and the first one to receive more than a caution.

Just because your guilty and it goes to court, doesnt mean you getting a tough penalty, or even a penalty at all! try and be optemistic.

PS i advise you to obtain a bicycle/bus pass just in case Wink
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 08 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's getting banned cos he was caught doing 73MPH in a 30MPH Limit.

And as for the topic of this thread he is likely to be given a ban of some sort and a hefty fine.

Or the officer might be in a good mood and use his desgression and let him off this time. Thumbs Up
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