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PostPosted: 10:25 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: New management making life hell Reply with quote

Had to make a new account to post this for various reasons.

I have been working wth said company for about 6 months now, around that anyway.

Recently (less than a week ago) new management was drafted in.

Now the second I turned up for work on a bike I got called in to the office asking if tat was my only way of getting in as it doesn't set a great company example (apparently I turn up scruffy... but im sitting here now in a nice pressed shirt, trousers, tie and shoes.)

So after that initial word, stating I prefer it, i'm not sitting in traffic/wasting money etc commuting... he went on to ask of my whereabouts a few days prior.

I gave him the most honest truth... and he pretty much called me a liar to my face, in front of other management. (must stress other management doesn't like me due to my dress sense/way I look.)

Then I have been told all my work up to that point had been shit, was told to redo everything.
Gives you a bit of a kicking really...and I really wanted to leave the company that day, just down tools and piss off, but we all have bills to pay.

I just really needed to vent this out... I want to find a new job, I've nearly re-done all the work that needs doing but I can see me being really unhappy here, I actually dislike going to that place, first time ever have I felt that...

I wouldn't even mind a change of job...go into sales somewhere, even working retail... but I think its a "you hav a problem, sort it now" thing rather than me actually thinking and planning it out.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It happens tbh.

I've worked for companies which were great places to work, until the old boss retired and was replaced by somebody else. It all went down hill from there on.

Tbh I think there are two things at work here (pun not intended):

One the new boss is establishing his power against you so you know where you stand. When I had employees when my biz was doing better treating them well sometimes they took the pish out of you. So I was harsh on them for a month or so, they understood the lines and worked well for me afterwards and the employee boss relationship was fine.


The second one is worse. Hazing and getting back for the times he was exploited. I had this boss who was waiting for the old boss to die/retire. He was paid pretty badly and treated badly by the old boss (was a separate dept but I could see it). When he got to the top. "To make up for the years of low pay" as he saw it. He would stomp around and make working conditions much less pleasant to make up for his lost years. These companies tend to go down the pan as they lose focus. I had this happen, they started losing customers due to the seachange in attitudes. The old boss came back 5 months later after he'd devastated the company. Most of the staff had left and many of the customers had too.


The best way to protect yourself is to find out where the bodies are buried. No ifs no buts, this gives you leverage if things get really bad and if he is spiteful and gives bad but untracable references over the phone. Oh and to actually have the guts to use this leverage if TSHTF
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far are you willing to take it?
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there anyone above him if so take it to them if not i don't know i am useless, is it as if he is singling you out against everyone else?if so thats discrimination right? tbh if you are sorting the work, and appear to be dressed the same as everyone else there shouldnt be a problem
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 20 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going above your Managers head without concrete proof is not going to work. It'll just piss them off and make things worse for you. It's not easy, but I'd be looking for a new job with dedication, and leaving as soon as possible. I had a problem with one of the Managers on my floor after he randomly decided to be an ass with me. Couldn't help but give a little righteous attitude to him, and he threatened to fire me and all sorts of dumb crap. I left it at that and he never mentioned it again, I was hoping he would pursue it too because he was a knob Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
Going above your Managers head without concrete proof is not going to work. It'll just piss them off and make things worse for you. It's not easy, but I'd be looking for a new job with dedication, and leaving as soon as possible. I had a problem with one of the Managers on my floor after he randomly decided to be an ass with me. Couldn't help but give a little righteous attitude to him, and he threatened to fire me and all sorts of dumb crap. I left it at that and he never mentioned it again, I was hoping he would pursue it too because he was a knob Thumbs Up


Fuckem.

Make a written complaint to HR served via email from your home email account that you were taken in to the managers office on your arrival to work on whatever date it was and abused and discriminated against due to your mode of transport. That after stating your refusal to drive to work in a car your honesty was brought into question as was the quality of your work and you were ordered on pain of dismissal to do it all again.

State that you are very upset that you have been discriminated in this way, that your hobby and mode of transport have been described as too scruffy for the company and that it has made you feel harassed and abused.

Won't stop you being fired which is what is probably going to happen but it will give you some insurance when you are.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That, plus assert firmly that your work, conduct, and dress (while in the workplace) are absolutely exemplary, and that you are being judged on a purely extrinsic factor which has no relation at all to your actual work.

Ask to see documentation of their policies regarding their disciplinary procedures, and any environmental policies or pledges particularly, but not limited to, encouraging workers to use more efficient means of transport.

You're basically out the door, but you can make it very expensive for them to be nobbers.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No employee can discriminate your mode of transport unless they actually supply you with a company car.

As long as you get there on time and look smart when you actually start work they can't do alot.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've only been there 6 months, it doesn't matter much what you do... if they decide they want to get rid of you, they can, for pretty much no reason at all (so long as they don't blatantly say "it's 'cos you is black" or "it's 'cos you're a Muslim/Jew/voodoo priest". Sadly, biking doesn't actually count as a religion Sad ).

So either:
1) suck it up until you get to 12 months and some safety
2) suck it up while looking for another job ASAP
3) suck it up until they sack you anyway (at 11 months 2 weeks)
4) flounce.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
If you've only been there 6 months, it doesn't matter much what you do... if they decide they want to get rid of you, they can, for pretty much no reason at all (so long as they don't blatantly say "it's 'cos you is black" or "it's 'cos you're a Muslim/Jew/voodoo priest". Sadly, biking doesn't actually count as a religion


My previous employer thought the way you do, they now have an employment tribunal to face. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 21 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:

My previous employer thought the way you do, they now have an employment tribunal to face. Thumbs Up


If they were arseholes, good luck Smile

It is really very easy for an employer to dismiss someone within the first year without such worries though; there's a really simple set of steps to follow to make sure it's all above board. Happily, most of the employers who are gits are also too stupid to do it right Wink
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 22 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
there's a really simple set of steps to follow to make sure it's all above board.


Could you explain please?
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 22 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
defblade wrote:
there's a really simple set of steps to follow to make sure it's all above board.


Could you explain please?


A previous employer of mine sent a hatchet man over from Canukistan, who ordered HR to fake up records of failing performance reviews. He then put them in front of employees that he wanted rid of and said "Your desk is being cleared right now. You can either take this risible redundancy package, or you'll be sacked on the spot for bad performance. Sign here."

Which is why I now have no hesitation in recommending that employees simply fake up a history of egregiously abusive conduct and get a solicitor to come in and fight their corner.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 22 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


A previous employer of mine sent a hatchet man over from Canukistan, who ordered HR to fake up records of failing performance reviews. He then put them in front of employees that he wanted rid of and said "Your desk is being cleared right now. You can either take this risible redundancy package, or you'll be sacked on the spot for bad performance. Sign here."

Which is why I now have no hesitation in recommending that employees simply fake up a history of egregiously abusive conduct and get a solicitor to come in and fight their corner.


Which is why for performance reviews you always ask for a copy and also if possible get minutes.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the worst comes to the worst, the company I work for is having a massive recruitment drive.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: New management making life hell Reply with quote

ThrillSeeker wrote:
Had to make a new account to post this for various reasons.

I have been working wth said company for about 6 months now, around that anyway.

Recently (less than a week ago) new management was drafted in.

Now the second I turned up for work on a bike I got called in to the office asking if tat was my only way of getting in as it doesn't set a great company example (apparently I turn up scruffy... but im sitting here now in a nice pressed shirt, trousers, tie and shoes.)

So after that initial word, stating I prefer it, i'm not sitting in traffic/wasting money etc commuting... he went on to ask of my whereabouts a few days prior.

I gave him the most honest truth... and he pretty much called me a liar to my face, in front of other management. (must stress other management doesn't like me due to my dress sense/way I look.)

Then I have been told all my work up to that point had been shit, was told to redo everything.
Gives you a bit of a kicking really...and I really wanted to leave the company that day, just down tools and piss off, but we all have bills to pay.

I just really needed to vent this out... I want to find a new job, I've nearly re-done all the work that needs doing but I can see me being really unhappy here, I actually dislike going to that place, first time ever have I felt that...

I wouldn't even mind a change of job...go into sales somewhere, even working retail... but I think its a "you hav a problem, sort it now" thing rather than me actually thinking and planning it out.


Why do they have a problem with your dress sense if as you say you wear a nice pressed shirt, trousers, tie and shoes?

As far as the 'getting to work' thing goes - if they aren't subsidising your travel then they can mind their own bloody business would be my reply. YOu're not representing the company - you're just another bod on a bike, so it shouldn't matter a damn to them what you look like.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: New management making life hell Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:



YOu're not representing the company - you're just another bod on a bike, so it shouldn't matter a damn to them what you look like.


Depends on his job I guess.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 23 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me who thinks that Warped is the OP. With the bit about the pressed shirt thrown in to serve as a decoy....

If it is then you know what you need to do.... Throat punch....
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PostPosted: 06:03 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
defblade wrote:
there's a really simple set of steps to follow to make sure it's all above board.


Could you explain please?


It's all on various websites, ACAS is probably the easiest to follow. Basically, the company must have a published discipline procedure and actually follow it.
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 24 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the meantime, just skiff the cups in the kitchen like the rest of us...

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PostPosted: 07:53 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

swampy wrote:
Is it just me who thinks that Warped is the OP. With the bit about the pressed shirt thrown in to serve as a decoy....

If it is then you know what you need to do.... Throat punch....



That was my first thought.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
swampy wrote:
Is it just me who thinks that Warped is the OP. With the bit about the pressed shirt thrown in to serve as a decoy....

If it is then you know what you need to do.... Throat punch....



That was my first thought.


No, the English is too good.

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PostPosted: 08:38 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
No, the English is too good.

Mark



I actually checked for spelling mistakes and found it was a little too well written and even though the paragraph spacing is similar, decided not to voice my suspicions - True story Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
No, the English is too good.

Mark



I actually checked for spelling mistakes and found it was a little too well written and even though the paragraph spacing is similar, decided not to voice my suspicions - True story Thumbs Up .


I reckon Warped's English and spelling are generally OK. It was the paragraphing, and the tone of 'I'm being reasonable but everyone else hates me' that sort of raised my suspicions.

He uses the phrase 'down tools', but is in a nicely pressed shirt ?Possible, but a little odd.

Oh and the nick is 'Thrill Seeker' quite close to the adrenaline filled fantasy that fills his mind...

Anywho, tune in next week for the next exciting episode of CSI Grimsby... Wink
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 28 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh I'm so worried about this happening at my work!
The business manager has just left, and although a new one hasnt been appointed yet because the main company is a bit tight, there should be one in the near future, and the branch i'm at has finally got into a state of a decent team and things are ticking over ok.
But we shall see if the next manager messes everything up. I'm hoping someone will come in & inspire everyone (there are alot of people who have been working here far too long and are very demotivated) But who knooows! Exciting times!
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