Are the Feds getting sneaky?

[gixergeezer]

Here's an interesting comment I thought I'd make about the bane of all motorists lives; Speed Cameras.

I travel along the Black Country Route (a stretch of 40-50 mph dual carriageway) near West Bromwich on a fairly regular basis and am aware of numerous Gatso's along the route and don't speed as a result. This morning, I was overtaken by a BMW on a stretch that had (I thought) no cameras.

As he came past, a speed camera cunningly screened by foliage flashed twice. There were, apparently, none of the usual road markings used to identify distance travelled between photos but, as the camera flashed the lines suddenly became visible. It was as if they had been painted using a reflective paint that was invisible under normal daylight conditions!!

My questions are:

(a) Is it not an infringement to obscure the cameras presence?
(b) Is anyone else aware of the "hidden" distance markers?

Seems the Feds are getting sneakier!!

[Rollins]

[gixergeezer]

I know that, originally, they were all the plain battleship grey units but, after some legislation was passed, they had to ensure that the more visible yellow panel was fitted (and this was retrospective for those already installed).

I know that there was media coverage of Gatso's that were moved because they were "concealed" but I am not certain on the legislation

[california_rookie]

That's horrible. We've got the same thing, but ours are on two wheels and chase after you if you're doing more than 5mph over. There seems to be no rules here as to where they can and cannot hide. And definitely no lines as they're always mobile. You'd be surprised how hard it is to miss a giant white bike and a black uniform when it's behind a bush or a building or both.

Got my one and only ticket from a bike cop hiding behind a tree near my dad's neighborhood. 12mph over the limit in a 35, coming out of a 45mph zone.
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[Rollins]

Sneaky American cops eh? Unlucky!!

Down that same road (A45), the authorities say they have switched off 2 cash cameras, because of inappropriate location - one was hidden behind a 10ft high sign, and the other was somewhere that hadn't had it's allotted number of crashes in 3 years. This was several months back - funny how they have left them there, with fresh distance markers & the 'bright' yellow coating looking clean...

[Phoenix]

The only one I can think of thats obscured at all on the A45 is coming up towards the Airport from Birmingham way, in the central reservation, though tbh it seems fairly visible to me.

Where's this stealth camera Pete? road and location?

[Chrisowingtot...]

near my college, in amersham, theres a camera obscured by a bush in the front garden of a block of flats, but its not illegal apparently cos its the residents of the flats job to cut the bush, not the council's. thats how sneeky the f*ckers are getting. the bush was there before the speed camera by the way....

[Rollins]

[Git]

The feds have always been sneaky, nothing new there at all!

[gixergeezer]

Alex, Its on the Great Bridge - West Bromwich section of the Black Country Route (stretch between Asda anda Barlowworld islands)

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[T.C]

The camera's only need to have reflective markings and be visible in areas where the Police keep the proceeds of that camera, if the funds go to central Government then there is no requirement for them to be visible and they can ve hidden under current regulations.

As far as the markings are concerned, these are calibration lines and again are not a legal requirement which is why mobile camera's can be used!
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