Recommend me something like a cr500?

0l0dom0l0 · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Karma :

I'm after a big 2 stroke off road/ SM style bike that's preferably road registered.

I really like CR 500 's but they are expensive and finding one that's road registered is going to be a night mare. I don't mind doing the stuff to get one road registered but I'm kind of a little stuck as I'm reading in one place you need lights and in other places you don't? Can anyone clear up the road registering process?

What alternatives are there to the CR? Don't mind going a little smaller say to 350 if it opens my options.

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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

Ktm 380 is considered the same animal as a cr. My friend bought one off another friend of mine for 1400 last year with a full doma system and plans to make it an animalistic sm. It's been in the making for about a year though so i've list interest.
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Reid · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Karma :

Not sure about UK but in the states Baja Designs do all-in-one conversion kits for dedicated off-roaders at around £300. Definitely do-able and perhaps easier than finding a road-registered one at a decent price.

Also, lights aren't a requirement as you can get what's known as a "daylight MOT" (and why you'll occasionally see track bikes on the road).

Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

Just buy a CR500.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

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They do a 700cc version.

Do consider if you really do want a CR500 style bike - I've talked to/read enough people that have or have had them and overall they seem to be more hassle than it's worth.

I would consider a KTM 360/380.
Go a little further back and they did a 550!

I used to have an 87 KTM 350 enduro - I reckon this engine would make for a pretty fun road bike as no powervalve meant a decent kick when the powerband kicked in.

There are special exemptions for dirt bikes, so you actually need very little for MOT - think a rear reflector, numberplate and horn should do it pretty much!

chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

I'm fairly sure I read somewhere that a CR500 needs a new piston every 15 hours of use.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I haven't ridden a CR500, so not sure what kind of 'hit' they have.
Modern enduro bikes tend to have a very 'flat' power delivery, actually more so than the 4 strokes!

Personally, from what other people have said, I wouldn't go for one of the massive strokers as an 'only' bike, as it ends up being too much hassle.

That old 350 is probably the last of the breed, certainly all the larger cc 90s enduros strokers I've ridden have been very 'flat' - they are made to be as easy to use as possible when presented with complex landscapes to cross - while as motocross riding tends to be similar and more about flat out speed, their engines still tend to have that big 'hit'.

TE610 is more of a sensible 'do it all' kinda bike. Certainly on the 2006+ models a lot of people have spent many months living from them, riding daily.

Atomic Punk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Karma :

I had a CR250, road legal back in the 90,s, went like shit off a stick.

remmember beating a VMax away from the lights, next set the bloke on the Max pulled up and said "What the fuck is that thing?"

So a CR500 would be mental, plus you've got all that 2 stroke oil to mix as I don't think they have a seperate oil tank at least mine didn't.
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0l0dom0l0 · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Karma :

Well, I've been reading some more into CR 500's as road bikes and apparently they are good.

MPG is shit, fuel tank capacity is rather small but they're good fun and completely mental!

I've found this which is perfect:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motocross-Enduro-Road-Legal-MX-Lighting-Kit-Honda-CR500-/270711711335?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f07ace667#ht_1032wt_952

Also found out that (im pretty sure) CRF450 SM wheels fit straight on which means I can get some second hand ones at a reasonable price.

So looking at this bike OTR would cost about £3k:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CR500-Alloy-Frame-Hyrid-Motocross-/190589153264?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c5fffaff0#ht_546wt_1185
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

You're paying a decent chunk because it's in a modern chassis.

The wheels will depend what chassis it's from, but probably a CR, so quite possible CRF wheels will fit - remember a CRF supermoto is a bodge-job though.

I'm not sure where you've been reading, because where I've read has suggested it's a bit of a questionable road bike - though certainly a fun one Smile

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Wow; I know other 2 strokes have gone up in value, but wasn't expecting this to have. Some may just be speculative sellers, which do then push the price up in general.

A few years ago you'd get a tatty one for under £1k if you kept your eye out for a good deal.