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PostPosted: 21:03 - 02 Nov 2011    Post subject: Fumes and health Reply with quote

I'm not really all that bothered about fumes in general round London, I bang around town in both rush hours all the time, and never notice fumes and the like.

But this morning I was just getting onto the Canning Town Flyover, and squidging myself in between a fairly big truck and something else in the middle lane at EXACTLY THE MOMENT when the truck decided to send out a huge gust of black fumes.

Luckily I had my visor on half-mast so it didn't get in my eyes so bad, and I spent most of the time cursing through the ensuing cloud of gunk, and got past him safely enough - but several hundred yards later I could swear I started having palpitations Shocked ... it wasn't really bad, certainly not bad enough to stop and get over myself - but I wasn't really sure for several minutes whether it was caused by the fumes or just the anxiety of squeezing in between big traffic moving fast (which I do all the time anyway).

Anybody else experienced weird physical symptoms whilst in contact with fumes from other vehicles? Or is the excitement of filtering getting too much for the old bird?
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 02 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect it was a reaction to the incident more than anything.

The black cloud is soot caused by the lorry being given a bootful of 'throttle', and though there are fumes coming from the engine they are no worse than what you cannot see coming from all of the other engines.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Large particles of unburned/partially burned diesel.

that is FAR far worse for your health, lungs etc.. than some Co2 and the occiasional NoX from a petrol engine.

Nox is not good for you either, but you dont get big clouds/lungfulls of it.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Large particles of unburned/partially burned diesel.

that is FAR far worse for your health, lungs etc.. than some Co2 and the occiasional NoX from a petrol engine.

Nox is not good for you either, but you dont get big clouds/lungfulls of it.



The issue isn't what is worse for your health and I am not going to refute that inhaling diesel soot is worse than inhaling CO2 however I'm not convinced that a puff of particulate hydocarbons would produce heart palpitations in many people.


I'd put my pennies on the cloud of black shit startling you and making you panic.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice the smog and generally disgustingness every time I go back to the west midlands from sunny Norwich.

London must be awful. I bet the women have horrible skin.

There was a study that showed that exercising close to a busy road caused the person excessing to breath in 10 times the amount of pollution they might normally.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no where near as bad as it was in the eighties when I was despatching.
I used to come home every day with a black ring of dirt around my neck where the skin was exposed between my helmet and jacket.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked in London I found my snot often to have black bits in and generally a lot dirtier than it is normal.

Dirty southerners Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what you get for living in dirty, smelly London Razz

You don't get stuck in traffic long enough up here to have to inhale that crap.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 03 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
When I worked in London I found my snot often to have black bits in and generally a lot dirtier than it is normal.

Dirty southerners Rolling Eyes


Yeah after a full day out in London, wiping my face resulted in black wipes. They should advise you bring wipes as an FYI to the tourists.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 04 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
London must be awful. I bet the women have horrible skin.


Thanks but mine is quite clear, actually, always has been, and I've lived here for over 26 years.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 04 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie wrote:
When I worked in London I found my snot often to have black bits in and generally a lot dirtier than it is normal.


Yeah Kiwis and Aussies always whinge about that, too.
NeilMed SinusRinse helps a lot with that.
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